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Watched Prometheus, it was distinctly average. Great sets and visuals (strongest aspect of the film). Stale concept (going, arriving, exploring (ancient artefacts), can't leave). Staid character interactions, under-developed stories. Tacked on philosophy/religion. The fights/deaths were fun but they felt satirical at times because they were not in keeping with the tone of the rest of the film.

All in all, it felt like an unnecessary film after Sunshine, Event Horizon, Alien et al.


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I look on it as an introduction - nearly everything's made with a view to a franchise now, and this definitely was!

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I look on it as an introduction - nearly everything's made with a view to a franchise now, and this definitely was!

When I saw it at the cinema I was able to see through the plot discovering the reason for Charlize's character being on board. It was predictable in some ways and disjointed in others.

Whats more I have juts preordered it from Tesco Entertainment on bluray £15 with bonus 250 clubcard points and cash back. :oops:

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Well, not really, no. In the world of Blade Runner, The Earth has been abandoned by the elite of society and is home to mostly the dregs and criminals. It's also implied that mankind has spread well into the heavens, establishing colonies on many planets . Yet in Prometheus, isn't their ship pretty much a prototype for inter stellar travel?

Blade Runner is set some time around 2020. Prometheus, apparently (according to IMDB), is set in 2089. To quote :-

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Leon: My birthday is April 10, 2017. How long do I live?
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Unless time starts running backwards or we switch calendars some time in the next five years, the timelines don't match up at all.

It's ' just a geeky little Easter egg '.


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Blade Runner is set some time around 2020. Prometheus, apparently (according to IMDB), is set in 2089.
Did you read the article? (8+)

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Blade Runner is set some time around 2020. Prometheus, apparently (according to IMDB), is set in 2089.
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Yes. It doesn't help. Space is much more developed in Blade Runner than it is in Prometheus and the 'androids' are much more sophisticated, despite Prometheus apparently being set 70 years later. How do you square that with them both being set in the same universe?


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I'm not convinced the two are mutually exclusive.
Weyland Yutani make marvellous mechanical men, whereas Tyrell make meat bags.
Prometheus' crew make various statements that suggest this trip isn't a novelty or outside the norm for them. So we simply can't say space is more or less developed than Blade Runner.
The only direct reference I can bring to mind is Roy's final words about ships on fire.

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Space is developed in Prometheus, why else would they be so used to and bored by stasis?


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No indication of flying cars in Alien or Prometheus, but certainly very evident in Blade Runner. You would expect evidence of such transport in Hadley's Hope, and certainly a development of it by the time of Alien Resurrection. As we see a very blue collar vision of Earth in Blade Runner, we have to expect that the blue collar workers in the Alien and Prometheus films to have access to that, yes they are all wheel bound and dependent in the internal combustion engine.

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That journal entry reads like a poorly thought out attempt to link the two together.

I don't buy Paul's bit about flying cars - we don't really get the chance to experience earth in 2089, other than the odd tent on a hillside in Scotland; and there's no evidence regarding their suitability for use in off-world travel vs traditional ATVs. However, I do believe the Bladerunner story alludes to a much more developed space-faring capability.

Just to muddy the water further, though, it is more believable to see clones or genetically engineered humans much earlier than a nigh on perfect android like David.

Having said all that, I thought Prometheus was a bit lame and a missed opportunity. Nice effects, but not enough development of the characters to make me really care for their well-being. I remember yawning at the bit where the captain and remaining bridge crew decided to heroically sacrifice themselves for the good of humanity. The caesarian thing really stretched my suspension of disbelief to snapping point, too.

The birth of the Xenomorph, at the very end, really was the final straw. It was unnecessary and reeked of them trying too hard to tie everything in with the Alien universe, in my opinion, which further reinforces the lame, missed opportunity, feeling.

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An interesting interview with Jon Spaihts in Empire about his screenplay.

http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/ ... p?IID=1563

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The birth of the Xenomorph, at the very end, really was the final straw. It was unnecessary and reeked of them trying too hard to tie everything in with the Alien universe, in my opinion, which further reinforces the lame, missed opportunity, feeling.


I doubt that's a throwaway 'Oooh look at the monster' bit.
It's a prequel remember? There's something else coming.

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I understand it's a prequel, and the first of two, so why blow your load so early? It isn't a surprise and, when the proto-facehugger stuck it's thing down the engineers throat, the outcome was obvious and could easily have been left as implied; without detriment to the film. My point was, I thought the introduction of the xenomorph at the end of the film was... overreaching maybe? Trying too hard, certainly.

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I don't think they've let the cat out of the bag early, but maybe it's merely a taste of what's around the next corner?
Ridley knows what he's doing, by and large. He can do the suspense thing, and play with your imagination all he wants to. If he's showing you that monster, it's for a reason.

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