Aside from Hunt himself one of the largest threats to the NHS is TTIP and given the current governments enthusiasm for joining I doubt our EU membership status will have a great deal of impact.

EU judges could limit UK surveillance powers before referendum | World news | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... referendum

I'd trust faceless EU judges before ours and the rest of the old school tie network any day of the week. I hope this does as much damage as possible to the bill.





Even just in the last year the government has shown it can't be trusted with the first three.

Brexit would only make world more dangerous, says David Petraeus | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... d-petraeus

Quite apart from being a man who dyes his hair, he's also the man who gave classified military data to his mistress. Who wrote a book.
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Ukip-backed Brexit campaign employs EU migrants to rally support | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... rron-banks



*revolver hammer releases slowly*

It's a fcking roundabout of repeated claims and arguments. Basically we're getting "person X says Brexit good for situation A" followed by "person Y says Brexit bad for situation A". Repeat.

This isn't a debate. It's an episode of the Chuckle Brothers.

National living wage will increase immigration, culture secretary warns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03 ... ary-warns/



Oh, fcuk off you snide twat.

immigration will only increase if its allowed to increase. if we leave the EU our borders can be locked down only by application to enter the UK would be considered.
which is happening all across the europe, fences, walls no more free movement zone and then hopefully removal of all illegals especially from the UK ...

Given by definition we don't even know how many illegal immigrants there are in the UK, good luck finding them all and sending them home, wherever that may be.

Unless you're happy to be asked for your papers by an official every time you walk down the street. I think however that if it came to that you might find your opinion changes.

believe it or not that will be not be difficult. it will take time but not difficult ...

Leaked Brexit email claims David Cameron has 'starved' NHS | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -nhs-staff

Isn't it amazing how many Tories are now apparently so concerned about the NHS?

Right, so, bearing in mind we're talking about illegal migrants, which are nothing to do with the EU (any migration from the EU is currently legal after all), you're proposing a government does two things

a) Prevents or massively reduces further illegal immigration
b) Finds and deports the illegal immigrants who already are here, despite not even knowing how many of them there are let alone where they might be.

So that's some hypothetical future government doing two things every government outside war time has failed to do either of in several hundred years. And which, I as I say, is utterly irrelevant to our membership or not of the EU. Unless you plan to make all EU immigrants illegal the day we leave the EU, in which case you've just doubled the problem with no better solution.

The only way to get even a large portion of illegal migrants out of the UK is by turning it into police state. This is not politics, this is logic.

As for 'might take time' you're actually talking about decades if you're lucky, then you've got the issue of illegal immigrants having kids, who are legally allowed to live here because they are British citizens after all and, by international law (note, again, nothing to do with the EU), you're then not allowed to deport their parents until they are 18.

So , overall, nobody with two brain cells to rub together would share your confidence.

You're forgetting that he has a short-cut to locate most of the people he intends to to deport. He's going to send his brown shirts to the mosques and take all the people inside to some form of camp where he can arrange repatriation ... or something like that.

Worth noting that illegal migrants may not actually be the brown people from the desert who are scary due. They could just as easily be the white people from places like the USA who casually "forgot" to go home when their tine to do so came up. The problem with these is that they are terribly hard to spot from a distance, which makes it much harder to round them up and shove on a train to the "camps".

Mind you, looking at your average job-dodging member of Britain First, I doubt any of them would actually have the nerve to enact their genicidal fantasies. Much like all the unpleasant jobs that they feel are beneath them, they'd be happier getting some Poles or Romanians in to do the work for them. And then bitch more about how those people are stealing their jobs by holding poorly attended gatherings in a disused car park by the gasworks on the edge of some industrial estate.

Cameron could give top cabinet jobs to Brexit leaders in 'Operation Save Dave' | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... chael-gove

Boris - making Gove look good.

They’re the numpties who will have to plan any exit - and as they don’t seem to have one right now - or even some kind of outline of what will be necessary, it’s rather bothering.

Jeremy Corbyn: leaving EU would lead to ‘bonfire of rights’ | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -of-rights