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Twice as many? I missed the reports of that.


EDIT: I posted incorrect link, this one is right:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... hone-sales
As linked in the other thread by proffesor. EMEA numbers for Q4.


Sadly no chart but nice numbers thanks for the link.

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Android HAS done remarkably well this year. Obviously it can't continue gaining market share at this rate for long.

Within a reasonable band of error it would seem only one company should be worried and one other should be really worried…

It will be interesting to see how it all settles out.

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I still don't get the whole too expensive thing of the iPhone. Mine only cost about a hundred quid, which doesn't seem a lot for such a device to me.

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It doesn't appear to be possible to charge the Xoom via micro-USB.

Oh come on. Given this and the fact it's apparently CDMA only, I think it may be a bit longer than rumoured before we see it in the EU.

Xoom has a separate connector for charging, micro-USB doesn't work for this. Surely they should know something like that when doing a review.
If you want a proper review try this one:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4191/moto ... et-arrives

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I still don't get the whole too expensive thing of the iPhone. Mine only cost about a hundred quid, which doesn't seem a lot for such a device to me.


I paid full whack for my 3G. A spot of maths at the time showed me that it was cheaper to own one on PAYG as it was to go on a contract.

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I still don't get the whole too expensive thing of the iPhone. Mine only cost about a hundred quid, which doesn't seem a lot for such a device to me.


I paid full whack for my 3G. A spot of maths at the time showed me that it was cheaper to own one on PAYG as it was to go on a contract.

Yes, that's why I paid £250 for mine on a contract. I don't use it a lot but paying more for the handset made it cheaper in the long run.

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I still don't get the whole too expensive thing of the iPhone. Mine only cost about a hundred quid, which doesn't seem a lot for such a device to me.

Most people still expect a free phone on a contract. I have paid extra to get the phone I wanted since 2002 (i think) on the contract that suited me (more or less :lol: ).
So going from free to £250/600 will seem to be expensive from that view point.

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Xoom has a separate connector for charging, micro-USB doesn't work for this. Surely they should know something like that when doing a review.

I don't understand what you're meaning to say (genuinely). This is a pertinent issue for a review to mention, should they have left it to other reviews to mention it? Wouldn't that be betraying their readership?

I've just been away to the USA. I took... <thinks> four chargeable gadgets with me. An iPad, an Android phone, a camera and a Sony PSP. Do you know how many chargers I took? Four? Three? One. One charger with USB output, which all four devices (with three short cables) could be charged from. My entire charging setup fitted inside a cloth bag not much bigger than a glasses case. Am I going to buy any device from this day forward that can't be charged from a standard USB port and requires it's own plug in power supply to charge? Which will then require travel adapters should I travel outside the UK? Am I heck.

Any gadget manufactured today should be chargeable from a USB port (even if the cable itself is proprietary, which in fact I don't think it should - if Apple were starting off today I'd be slating them for not using MicroUSB). Making a device that isn't USB chargeable in 2011 is an utterly stupid decision.

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Xoom has a separate connector for charging, micro-USB doesn't work for this.


That’s a #fail then. There is an agreement between most mobile manufacturers to use Micro USB to charge phones. It’s not something that is impossible to do, and it means that if you want to charge your phone, you won’t have to scrabble around for that proprietary charger to do so. This is a good thing or the consumer, or am I missing a point here? The reviewers are clearly looking for this kind of feature, and it is their right to adversely comment on it.

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In a brave move, the vast majority of mobile phone manufacturers in Europe have signed an agreement which sees future mobile phones across a variety of brands and models all sharing the same charger port - the micro-USB. This means every phone you will find in Europe, starting next year apparently, will be fitted with the same charging port and be compatible with any charger. One charger for every EU mobile phone - this is fantastic news.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/m ... arger/1964

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Xoom has a separate connector for charging, micro-USB doesn't work for this. Surely they should know something like that when doing a review.

I don't understand what you're meaning to say (genuinely). This is a pertinent issue for a review to mention, should they have left it to other reviews to mention it? Wouldn't that be betraying their readership?

They should mention it. But when they say "It doesn't appear to be possible to charge the Xoom via micro-USB" it sounds like they are not sure if it is a faulty device or the intention from the manufacturer. It is not meant for charging!

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Making a device that isn't USB chargeable in 2011 is an utterly stupid decision.

I agree

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But when they say "It doesn't appear to be possible to charge the Xoom via micro-USB" it sounds like they are not sure if it is a faulty device or the intention from the manufacturer. It is not meant for charging!


I do agree with this. It would have been correct to simply state that the device does not support charging via USB - if that is indeed the case (I havent read the review or the system specs so I'm taking others word for it*)


*and taking an Arsenal fans word for it goes against every belief and moral embedded in the fibre of my mortal being ;) :lol:

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*and taking an Arsenal fans word for it goes against every belief and moral embedded in the fibre of my mortal being ;) :lol:

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Xoom has a separate connector for charging, micro-USB doesn't work for this. Surely they should know something like that when doing a review.

I don't understand what you're meaning to say (genuinely). This is a pertinent issue for a review to mention, should they have left it to other reviews to mention it? Wouldn't that be betraying their readership?

They should mention it. But when they say "It doesn't appear to be possible to charge the Xoom via micro-USB" it sounds like they are not sure if it is a faulty device or the intention from the manufacturer. It is not meant for charging!


That is what the consumer will expect it to do - as this socket becomes more of a charging point as well as for data exchange, this kind of omission will seem very peculiar.

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That is what the consumer will expect it to do - as this socket becomes more of a charging point as well as for data exchange, this kind of omission will seem very peculiar.


Apparently they won't care, as long as it isn't Apple...

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That is what the consumer will expect it to do - as this socket becomes more of a charging point as well as for data exchange, this kind of omission will seem very peculiar.


Apparently they won't care, as long as it isn't Apple...

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