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Change of direction crisis
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okenobi
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  | | | | timark_uk wrote: Ha. This amuses me. You're not the only one in a crap working environment, but I guess from all the responses above you're already aware of this. If you believe that after 10 years of being stuck with the daily grind of a job that doesn't inspire or challenge, then do something about it. You say that you have all this experience and that you're a people person, so you must've gained some knowledge in what to do regarding your current situation, no? Just get on and do it. I'm all for getting advice from mates, but you are the only one that can actually do it. If your situation is as bad as you say and could change for the worse in just a couple of months (I'm hoping it doesn't, just for the record) then there's not an awful lot of time to cogitate. At the very least you need to know what to do if it all falls through sooner than anticipated, and that may not be your ideal course of action, but then dealing with emergencies is hardly an ideal situation, so while it's good to have a mid-long term plan, have you also got a temporary short-term one? Mark | | | | |
Good old fashioned kick up the ass. Thanks mate. I'm not stupid. I do know all of this stuff, but I do feel at a crossroads and I'm kinda hoping to do something different with my life as I approach my 30s. One of the things I'm known for by my closest friends is endless consultation and chatting before making a decision. Some people say it's because I'm a Libra. Some say it's because I'm indecisive. Others say I just lack the focus to achieve my goals. In a way, they're all right. I was kinda hoping for some leftfield responses/ideas for careers/location changes that might pique my interest. Instead, I got a lot of reasonably standard sensible responses. Perhaps that's because of the way I framed the OP, perhaps not. Ultimately though, you're right - I have to do something about it. This afternoon, I've called a meeting with my colleagues (who also happen to be my family) and we've started work on a short-term strategy. Thanks for everyone's input. Very much appreciated and I'm glad you guys are here  
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forquare1
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If you've got ten years of experience doing low level stuff, I wouldn't set your goals too high. You might get lucky, but I wouldn't count on it. If you've got higher level experience you can start looking higher I'd say you have two choices: 1) Do what many people here have said and stay put, save up, and have a think about the next step. 2) Just go and do it now. I know of a few people who left uni and just went to London, or Birmingham, or Manchester. They had little or no money, little or no support, but they went, found cheap accommodation and found a job. They put themselves in a position where they couldn't sit back for a month or two, they were actively looking for what they wanted. A year later and many of them have left their initial job and are moving up, one has just gotten into the London Police force which is what he has always wanted to do. Had he moved back home and got whatever job, he probably wouldn't have moved to London when he had they money to, he'd have been too comfortable at home.
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timark_uk
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Somebody had to do it, and nobody had done it so far, so I took one for the team. (8+) More seriously, it is good that you've now got a meeting planned (no matter how in/formal it may be). It's always best to start from a position of "Right, this is where I am now, this is what could happen and this is what I want to do if it does". I hope the best possible future works out for you, but to have a fall-back plan in case it doesn't really can't hurt. Mark
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ProfessorF
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 ION, I'm also considering my next move. This present job, well, I've been in it just over a year. That's about the longest I've ever spent in one place, and I'm getting increasingly dulled by it. Lots of people are leaving as it is, and it's kind of spurring me on to do something else. But I've no idea what.
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okenobi
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Exactement. Ain't that just the issue. People can spout advice at you left, right and centre, but unless you know what you want - it's tough to make any kind of move. Although, I've managed to land on my feet every time and just work hard.
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l3v1ck
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You do know if you lie on a CV or in an interview and they find out, they're entitled to fire you on the spot and you have no legal come back at all.
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hifidelity2
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Ah but there is lying and then "focusing" your CV for the job I have never lied about qualifications but I will always taylormy CV to stress the points that they are asking in the advert
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dogbert10
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Reading this has made me realise why I took a science degree and went into R&D - there's always something new to try, a problem to solve - keeps the interest level up. Where I am now is not perfect (there seem to be a lot of people who's only skill is making pretty Powerpoint presentations), but after 20 years at the company it must be okay.
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okenobi
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I've got a mate in R&D in pro audio. He's never bored. But then he also doesn't really care, because he has an amazing wife and they've just had baby 
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hifidelity2
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[quote="okenobi I've got a mate in R&D in pro audio. He's never bored. But then he also doesn't really care, because he has an amazing wife and they've just had baby [/quote] I think there you are confusing life and work Ideally you have a good “Life” and enjoy your work. However you can easily have one without the other
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okenobi
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Nah, I like to think they're both part of the same experience and it would be great to integrate them in a purposeful and fulfilling existence. </hopeless idealism>
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oceanicitl
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As promised, just found out that site staff are not particularly well paid. Basic assistants will get about £6 an hour, supervisors £7 and managers £8/9 an hour. Once you get to management or above they are paid a salary. I very much doubt it is over £25k.
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okenobi
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Thanks for looking into it. I really appreciate it. As an update, here's the short term plan I've decided on: My current situation is somewhat "easy". That has its pros and cons, but we've all agreed that we will see out the bulk of the bookings until October half-term. That gives me two more pay cheques and gets my car insurance paid (hasn't that gone u[p this year?! Geez!) and I can have my birthday in October with friends and not be too worried. We have agreed an action plan for the business and if the owner hasn't been a complete idiot by the end of October, there should be enough work for us through the off-season, until say, April approx. This will give me time to clear my debt and save a few quid and in the meantime I can be putting some serious thought into what I want to do with my life - for real. I will also see if there are any courses at the local college that I still have time to join.
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