wow youre really into your tintin

Im just watching the tintin cartoon on youtube, quite amusing how literally everyone frowns ( ) even the dog with the same expression

kinda miffed that the cgi looks like a little kid when in the cartoon hes got his own house/flat etc. suggesting hes 18+

From that cover the one actor I thought of was Shia Lebeouf. It is a film that is made to have plenty of sequels if done well.

The plan is to make three films if the first is a success. The second will be The Seven Crystal Balls / Prisoners of the Sun (Jackson has expressed an interest in doing these two) and the third will be Destination Moon / Explorers on the Moon if all goes well with the second. The film adaptations are the three double book stories. All the rest are single books - though I think there would be more than enough material on most of the others to make a decent film too. Much like the upcoming film, I would expect any of the future ones to contain material from other books too to introduce characters and situations. These stories are mid-way through the canon, and because of that, the stories take place partly based on encounters Tintin has had in previous stories. The upcoming film takes chunks from The Crab With The Golden Claws - the first time Tintin meets Captain Haddock. Infact the two frames they have released are from that book, not the Unicorn stories.

The problem Spielberg and Jackson have is not making the film - but getting it to do well in America. This is why the project stalled a couple of times and the plan for a trilogy had to be cut back to two films with a possibility of a third. Tintin is not well known over there, and the books that are likley to draw fire are the earlier ones which are a little more than dodgy in content. One things Americans don’t like is European colonialism, and Tintin is born out of that era and the early stories reflect attitudes of the 1920’s.

That's only because they were - are? - no good at it themselves. They probably still harbour a grudge against being colonials themselves to start with.

It’s well worth reading up on - there’s a lot more going on than you may realise. You can do yourself a favour and try to get hold of this book:
Tintin: Herge and his Creation by Harry Thompson (the same person who devised Have I Got New For You, oddly enough)

There are two sets of TIntin cartoons. One lot, which did the rounds when I was a child, are those made by Tele Hachette and Belvision. They were quite bad, and serialised various stories. The problem with them was that you would get a recap of yesterday’s episode which lasted half the episode, in effect giving you half of yesterday’s instalment and half of tomorrow’s! The animation was pretty poor. I understand that when they were being developed, animators from Hanna Barbera were brought in to help, which probably explains an awful lot.

The more recent cartoons, made by Ellipse/Nelvana were better animated and more faithful to the style. However, in order to appease the American broadcasters, a number of stories were edited for content. One of the things Hergé did was to be quite critical of world events, and some of the stories involved the conflict in a factional South American state which has two generals who seem to be forever trying to overthrow each other. This conflict is fuelled by an American arms dealer and and oil baron. Guess what - this really happens - and some of the characters Hergé drew were representations of real people involved in this meddling. As a result, it was felt that to include this kind of thing in the cartoons would be too controversial, so they were cut out. The problem here being that the stories were pretty meaningless without this part of the story.

As always, I recommend reading the books - and keep an eye out for parallels to real world events in the 20th century.

Indeed - though if you have read Tintin Au Congo or Tintin Au Pays Des Soviets, you may find a very different charcter than the one in later books., Even Tintin In America is fairly controversial - it paints a stereotyped and shallow view of life in the USA based on movies. The Blue Lotus is the first book to have a body of research behind it - Hergé met a Chinese student - Zhang Chongren - who convinced him that the way to create a decent story is to do proper research into the subject (the character Chang in the book is based on Zhang Chongren). As a result, The Blue Lotus is a richer story. Until then, Hergé’s knowledge of the greater world was fairly limited, and reflected what most people thought. Belgium was still controlling the Congo, and the Congo book is the really controversial book because it shows just how little the average man in the street knew about Africa. You can buy it in English, but you have to ask for it in book shops - the only time I got a book from “behind the counter”.

Later books criticise the UK and USA involvement in the Middle East - frames were redrawn for the English translation of The Land of Black Gold so as not to cause controversy about the break up of the Middle East post WWII.

JUST. HOW. FREAKIN'. COOL.

It’s interesting how those Empire images are NOT showing up on Google images search yet. I would expect them to be in a search "Tintin movie" at the very least. There seem to be few results in Google’s web search too. Very interesting - has Spielberg leaned on Google to suppress such information before 4th?

I’ll be keeping an eye out for the magazine in Smiths on Saturday. I don’t subscribe to it, so won’t get the special cover.

can you buy tintin complete series set of cartoons on DVD?

only managed to find this and theres 3? of them>?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adventures-Tint ... 420&sr=8-9

This is the set I have.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adventures-Tint ... _cp_d_h__1

It's all of the Nelvana cartoons in one box.

that boxset seems to have really bad reviews Is it the same as the one I Watched on TV when I was a kid? the tintin that was on during the nineties etc? a reviewer says its dubbed over with american or canadian voices or something? id rather not hear their irritating accents that ruin it. I could only listen to the twin detectives with that fitting english accent

dissapointed

Not seeing bad reviews there, and these are the same as the others you linked to, but all in one box. Yes, the accents are transatlantic, but IIRC there are French soundtracks too (no subtitles). Remember - Nelvana, who produced these cartoons, are a Canadian outfit.

To date, these are the best animated versions of Tintin I have seen - they preserve the ligne claire style for which Hergé is famous, and for £12 it’s really worth it.

FYI, there is also a Blake and Mortimer set - done by the same people, and again well worth getting hold of if you like the Hergé style, but want something a bit more “Quatermass”.

damn but still I would of wanted english accents it puts me off buying it altogether

maybe after xmas ill buy it or something just wondering if theres any dvd of any sort that I could buy with english accents but I dont see that happaning

Why are you so racist?

Mark

I kind of think he has a point though. TIntin is not American. He’s a Belgian, and as such should really speak with a Belgian French accent. Much the same applies to the other characters, though Captain Haddock could, at a pinch, be Irish - or even Scottish (his favourite drink is Loch Lomond whisky). The Thompsons seem to be working for Belgian Police (this is what we assume anyway), but they seem to get attached to Interpol and Scotland Yard from time to time. Their original names are Dupond and Dupont (French), they would be on some form of detached duty - and would speak english with a French accent also. Bianca Castafiore is Italian (she is also known as the Milanese Nightingale).

You have to look at this not from an English perspective, or even from an American one, but from a Franco-Belgian one, using the original names as a clue to what they should sound like. None of them suggest American in any way, shape or form.

The problem is that the cartoons are aimed at an American audience, and so they have to sound American to gain acceptance. It grates for me too - a lot.