Same here. I think that Kira was feistier. Dax was eye candy.

Uhm, Dax was a guy.

Dax was cuter after the regeneration.

Jadzia is the bit we're all falling for, Dax was the 'old man' Cisco kept referring too, a symbiont.

Ah, Nicole De Boer. 'Cute' is definitely the word for her. I remember this really bad scifi kids series she was in way back before Star Trek. Five (I think) teenagers piloting an arc-ship full of DNA (or some such) through space after human life had been wiped out by a poorly defined apocalypse. I think the budget was about a tenner

She smiled cheekily at me once. Very cute.

Jadzia. Yum.

Deepwater Black.

She was also in the TV series The Dead Zone, as well as the film Cube.

Yeah, that was it. They had I think only two sets (the cockpit of the ship and what looked like it was supposed to be the ship's canteen) and the CGI was even more wonkey than the first series of Bab5. IIRC it did have an ending, although for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Canadian, I think?

(googles) Man alive, that was 15 years ago...


The Dead Zone TV series wasn't a patch on the film. Christopher Walken rocked in that. And Martin Sheen played the President. again. They probably can't actually make him President even if they wanted to, he's played the president so many times he's no longer eligible.

Nicole De Boer is only a year younger than me. She looks a lot better on it than I do...

Just finished watching Bablyon 5, again, yesterday. It is still an excellent series and the only one I bought on DVD. I bought the first 2 seasons of DS 9 on VHS, as the tapes were individually released, but B5 is the only one I keep coming back to.

Lyta Alexander, Talia Winter, Commander Ivanova... Want a strong "woman", there is Na'Toth! Even some of the Centauri women are very attractive, there is something about bald women.

It was the on-going story that made B5. You could pick up individual episodes and they wre good, with some very good B-Stories, but the arc, over 5 years (well season 4 was rushed, because they thought they wouldn't get season 5 and JMS threw away his script notes and had to re-write everything for season 5).

There were a couple of stinkers in there, but fewer than most series.

I'm going to stick my hand up and say I enjoyed the ST prequel "Enterprise".

It started slowly, but like B5 it had a big story arc that promised great things, until the God of Poor Ratings killed it. It was all rushed to a stupid conclusion and the final episode where it's all revealed to be a history lesson in the 24th century remains one of the all time cop outs.

I hear rumours it may be revived. Was it a film version?

Enterprise suffered from trying to match existing canon. There was just too much in the previous Trek series to stick to that it acted like a strait jacket on the writers. I think the first two series were weak. Once Archer grew a pair and started to get a bit more Kirk-like in his approach to dealing with alien species, it started to pick up.

However, things looked too advanced. It should have looked like a prequel to The Original Series. Instead, it seemed to sit somewhere between TOS and TNG. At the Star Trek exhibition at Hyde Park, they had some alternative Enterprise NX01 designs. Some looked like they really did predate Kirk’s vessel. They were not used. It also had that dreadful Bad Christian Rock theme son.

There are lots of rumours about a new series. Since the reboot film’s success, it seems that there is interest in the franchise again. However, there is a send JJ Abrams film in the works, so a TV series may not appear before that for fear of diluting the brand.

As an interesting side not, J Michael Straczynski wrote a reboot plan for Star Trek prior to Enterprise being developed - with a 5 year story arc, focussing on the Kirk/Spock/McCoy relationship. It sounded like he was taking the Warrior/Priest/Worker cast system from B5 and repurposing it. However, it’s out there on internet land - and well worth a read. It’s linked to from this page: http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/2006/ ... _star.html

I thought it started well till it went off on that ridiculous time line story. It would have been much better acting as a way to meet all the species that were known about in STOS. Then develop rivalries there. No need for events that do not fit the overall ST timeline. The same applies to the latest ST movie. Now a whole alternate reality has been created.

I think the whole new reality is necessary. It would be like treading on broken glass trying to get things right. Fans will get upset - and you don’t really want to upset Star Trek fans too much. The new movie made much of the time line shift and had the old guard handing over to the new.

As for Enterprise - you have to ask yourself questions like “what about the huge gash on the Earth’s surface the Xindi cut - why wasn’t that mentioned in story ones that followed?”. Simple answer - they could not because you can’t go and retrospectively fix stuff like that. This is the problem Enterprise suffered from. Retrofitting is not an option.