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I would marry Mal, and i'm straight.

*hugs two box sets, plus serenity dvd and HDDVD*

It helps that my housemates are similarly as obsessed as me >.< We've watched the series four times through, one of them was a marathon.

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And yes, Mark. Dollhouse does look good. But they've axed that too.
No, they haven't. At least not officially.
Until I hear of it being officially canned I'll pay the rumours no heed.

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I would marry Mal, and i'm straight.

*hugs two box sets, plus serenity dvd and HDDVD*

It helps that my housemates are similarly as obsessed as me >.< We've watched the series four times through, one of them was a marathon.

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2 box sets? There's only one series. Lol

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But we have two copies of it =p


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i've seen both dollhouse and the knightrider 'reboot'

dollhouse is good... hasn't fared well ratings wise so there may not be a season 2... but like timark I'll make no assumptions either way...

knight rider is cack [moreso than the original] and should be avoided... the pilot episode was ok... the series is just garbage...


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Joss Whedon just has not had commercial success since Buffy. Angel was riding on the coattails of the other. Axing Firefly was a massive mistake - there were so many plot lines and characters to develop. It was a great reversal of Star Trek, and gave more than a nod to Blakes 7 I feel. You could tell Whedon was pissed off about it by the end of Serenity. You don’t do that when you expect a new TV season to be picked up.

I am looking forward to Dollhouse, but from what I can tell the jury is still out on a second series. There are conflicting rumours - though I have read that the ratings are dropping dramatically, which will seal its fate.

US TV is dreadfully advert-led. If the ratings drop, the ad revenue goes down, and the programme gets axed. Rather than stick with it, adjust the formula and give it a second series, the TV companies would rather stick their necks out on something new, and the cycle repeats.

Rebooting is very popular too - and BSG showed how well it could be done - but there is a lot more in that than the updating of sets, costumes and effects. Someone actually had to sat down and write a credible story to back it up. And, no, I have not yet seen series 4. I am waiting for a boxed set to appear of the whole lot - preferably on BluRay. I think it’s that good.

When a reboot is done badly, the audience will revolt. I cite Flash Gordon - a SciFi channel production. That sank fast, but they insisted on showing the whole thing. Just in case.

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US TV is dreadfully advert-led. If the ratings drop, the ad revenue goes down, and the programme gets axed.
It's not just about that though. Fox has a history of farting about with the schedules of genre programming, hoping that the much famed loyal fan-base of such shows follow it around the schedules like loyal lapdogs.
Well, this doesn't happen nearly as much as the networks would like, and so it's then that viewing figures fall-off with the resultant drop in revenue from advertisers.

And I'm sorry, but Angel was not riding on the coat-tails of Buffy. Okay, the first one or two seasons perhaps did, but the last three seasons were very strong.

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That KR trailer looked awful :shock: , and what was the deal with the bit about 'from the director of The Bourne Identity?', or whatever it was?

EDIT - Why Doug Liman? WHY? :shock: :(

Also, KITT's voiced by Val Kilmer this time :o

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Mark's right - a lot.

Dollhouse is most definitely still on the bubble. Ratings have been stronger than a lot of the talk. It's also a stronger show than Firefly IMO.
Angel was a superb show and ended up being superior, in a lot of ways, to Buffy.

On the numbers front, Dollhouse ended the season on a low with just 2.76m on Friday night which put it forth in it's timeslot. But like I said, it's on the bubble and so are plenty of other shows. May sweeps is only just getting under way, so a could be a couple of weeks (or longer) before a decision is made.


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I've seen the pilot and Season 1 of KR2008.

Been a major fan of KR since it aired in the 80s. Then repeated in the 90s. Then repeated again by channel 5. Then repeated on channel 5 in 30 mins timeslots! Never had cable/sky so didn't watch it on bravo.

The pilot is okay. Some interesting things but there were a lot of promises that were never kept. It made you expect to see KI2T (KI2T = Knight Industries Two Thousand, to differentiate it from KI3T - Knight Industries Three Thousand). You expected to see David Hasselhoff reprise the role of Michael Knight. He doesn't.

The first half of the season is basically a cheap episode of '24' - Mike and KI3T have to tackle the terrorist of the week. The writing was poor, the action was lame, it was crap. KI3T turbo boosts maybe five times throughout the entire of season 1? Compare to five times in the pilot episode of the original?

The second half of the season was better. This was after the 'retool' where they fired off half of the cast (most fans say one of them should have been kept). The writing was sharper, the action was harder. It was good (compared to the first half). But they still failed to satisfy fans - the biggest episode (should have been two or three parter) was worse than any episode of the original series. Worse, every episode throughout season one never had a 'proper' ending - it just felt like they suddenly stopped it.

There was gratuitous T&A throughout the series. Depends on your taste but it always felt forced and distracted from the show.

My advice? If you're gonna watch it, don't expect much of it. There are KR fans who tried to get their kids to watch the new series. These same kids preferred the original series. Children! Children didn't like the new series.

Truthfully? I never once wanted to rewatch an episode. In comparison, I've seen the pilot of TOS well over twenty times!

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The first half of the season is basically a cheap episode of '24' - Mike and KI3T have to tackle the terrorist of the week. The writing was poor, the action was lame, it was crap. KI3T turbo boosts maybe five times throughout the entire of season 1? Compare to five times in the pilot episode of the original?


Yeah, turbos were the big thing in the 80s. As a way of boosting performance without falling foul of the smog laws, America thought the turbo was the answer to everything. These days, I'm surprised KI3T doesn't have some sort of KERS system...

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Yeah, turbos were the big thing in the 80s. As a way of boosting performance without falling foul of the smog laws, America thought the turbo was the answer to everything. These days, I'm surprised KI3T doesn't have some sort of KERS system...


Erm, no. Not sure what you're thinking of, but this is a Knight Rider Turbo Boost clicky

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It was dreadful - truly bad. I gave it an hour, found it didn’t improve. The original was pulp TV from Glen A Larson, but so was Battlestar Galactica. Maybe my expectations are higher now, but I was hoping the KR would have a greater depth.

I think I have been spoiled by intelligent US drama series.

Anyway, I was unimpressed, so I turned over and watched Michael Portillo. He was having a fight.

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Apparently Glen A Larson is trying to resurrect his original vision of KR by doing a complete retelling of the original tale in a movie format.

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Erm, no. Not sure what you're thinking of, but this is a Knight Rider Turbo Boost clicky


Yeah, the leaping over things at a touch of a button. The fact it's a 'Turbo' boost is pure 80s-ness.
I'd have thought these days the 'jumping over stuff' button would have been a battery boost or something.
Aren't they doing as much jumping over stuff as they used to then?
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