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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Q. Would an uneducated people still pay for their children to be shackled up somewhere in the name of 'rehabilitation' by a man who promises answers if there was no religion? Q. Does the presence of a Higgs-Boson in the universe give people a sense of belonging, community and belief in an afterlife?
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:12 pm |
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leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 pm Posts: 5071 Location: Manchester
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Glad it's making you ask questions.
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:13 pm |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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A huge YES to "sense of belonging" and "community". As to "Afterlife" there are films about that. I'm primarily thinking of event horizon, but there are many others. *edit* - no ones going to see my unstealthy edit now it's bumped to the previous page 
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:15 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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How so and in what sense? Are people going to gather together and hear what's going on in their community, check up on the elderly members of their groups, keep an eye on drunken youth and make sure they're safe at the weekends? I rather suspect the 'community' is probably going to take the form of some people feeling clever online, or failing that, the top 0.5% of minds gathering occasionally to discuss things the other 99.5% of us can't fully comprehend.
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:19 pm |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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That sounds like the Catholic Church to me, depending on your interpretation of "top minds".
_________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:27 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Yeah... an elite of people who claim to know things the rest of don't about the universe and our place in it? At least in church you get a good singalong going.
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:29 pm |
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leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 pm Posts: 5071 Location: Manchester
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I posted the article about the Higgs Boson because it talks about vanishing probabilities and evidence.
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:29 pm |
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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5836
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I would dispute that adjective sometimes... ... especially when Graham Kendrick or Matt Redman is involved.
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:30 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Indeed, and there's still quite a lot of 'we don't really know' in the article. In time, I'm sure things will become clearer.
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Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:34 pm |
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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That's begging the question. You say it's a human concept, they say it's a divine one. But your claim assumes they are wrong and that you are right without going to the effort of being demonstrably right. If they are right you cannot possibly observe that empirically. Therefore you cannot have empirical knowledge that they are not right. Therefore you need to stop, it's a futile pursuit. Therefore the fundamental axioms of your investigation are clearly unsound, and that means it is an outrage against science to make scientific claims about such matters. Stop it already.
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Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:48 am |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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I'm sure there will be a song about this soon enough. There's a great tradition of science singalongs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cd36WJ79z4And maffs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqpWETqoD5Q(That song is long, if a little irrational)
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Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:54 am |
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leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 pm Posts: 5071 Location: Manchester
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"Sharia police halt rock gig to shave punks’ heads for "re-education""
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Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:29 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Exoplanet ranking suggests INTERSTELLAR WAR imminent Too late to recall idiotic message beamed at alien starhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/24/exoplanet_habitability_rankings/Thanks, science. 
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Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:37 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:55 am |
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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Quite. 
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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