oh dear that old card again ...

'old card'? That would be the 'reasonable person gets fed up with being associated with racists' card would it?

Nigel Farage asked if he would like to apologise for that poster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6fbVldv_A8

Spoiler: he doesn’t.

as soon as anyone mentions 'immigration' the 'R' card is used.
what's racist about allowing by application entry to the UK from anywhere in the world, a level playing field.
but having control of unlimited immigration from the EU which would then be done the same as the rest of the world.

and no i don't get fed up. if that was the case i wouldn't even post an answer ...

ps. i would at this time ban entry for a certain religion from anywhere in the world into the UK ...

that poster is a real photo of immigrates mostly illegals trying to enter Europe
why apologise for something that is 'fact' ...

Putting words in quotes, like you have with the word “fact”, usually implies doubt or uncertainty. So you accept that it’s not factual then, it seems.

The issues with the photos are many:
1 - The continuing demonisation of people coming from war zones and other unstable parts of the world. The referendum is about membership of the EU, not the processing of refugees and asylum seekers. The implication of the poster is that the UK is full, and that those people are heading here. IF they were EU migrants, then why isn’t that queue a mixture of races? You’d expect to see some, maybe a slight majority of, white faces in that shot. You don’t. It’s a queue of brown faces, and the message is clear: they are heading out way. The poster says one thing, Farage claims something very different when pressed. He’s sailing very, very close to the wind with that one. He knows what he’s doing.

Mind you, unlike some Europeans, they are actually queuing - so they know how to be British already. Let them in, and give them jobs!

2 - There are similarities with German propaganda footage during WWII - which has been very well documented in the press and social media. I’ll leave you, dear reader, to draw your own conclusions about whether this was deliberate or some kind of terrible coincidence.

It‘s hard to see how Farage is doing anything positive for his campaign, or the leave cause in general, at this stage. I expect it’s all about ensuring that those who can hear the dog whistle stay on side. More posters to come, apparently.

a factual photo is exactly that 'factual' with or without quotes.

1. most of these illegals are not coming from a war zone. some a few are but most are not
the referendum is about 'sovereignty' do we control or the EU control us
as of mixed numbers of races which planet are you on.

2. its nothing like that propaganda in WWII, yet the EU are heading in that direction at every election the far 'right' or 'left' are winning hand over fist.
Mr Farage is showing us the 'facts' so we don't head in that direction but if we don't leave the EU we will most certainly will head in that direction

what you seem to fail too understand is prevention is better then any cure. so please move into the world as it is not as you wish it should be
utopia is a dream people happen to get in the way of it 'fact' ...

ps. we still need to get out of the UK any and all illegals by whatsoever means possible and stop a certain religion entering the UK and if you dont get the sense of that, then oh well we will head in a different direction. your choice you choose, I'm easy because i don't care which way we go.

I never mentioned the word immigration. Quite a few of the organisations supporting/coming out for the Leave campaign are overtly and unapologetically racist. Their 'patronage' actually does the Leave campaign no favours, as it puts off a lot of people who you'd probably describe as 'centre right' who might otherwise be more sympathetic to Leave's arguments. This is exactly why Baroness Warsi left. Not because 'Leave' of itself is racist, but because some of the people who are taking part in it's campaign definitely are, and the Leave campaign isn't doing anything to disassociate from them.

strange as she was never part of the leave campaign. but left something she never joined to join the remain campaign.
and the first thing that is mentioned is the 'R' word ...

You can try to deflect this as much as you like, but prominent sympathetic politicians walking away because they feel very uncomfortable about some of the people the Leave campaign are attracting is simply not a good story to be in the press.

I think you are going to be rather disappointed.

First off, under EU treaties (the Dublin Agreement), a refugee is supposed to register their status in the first EU country that they enter. We would be entirely in our rights to remove any that enter this country and send them back to the EU country that they have entered. It is up to that country to determine the legality of entry, and to expel those who do not qualify for entry.

If we leave the EU, we won’t have that right. Any who turn up - even those who pass through the EU - will have to be assessed and processed on these shores. We also have to be prepared for France to decide that they really don“t want that camp outside Calais any more, and to require that border controls are moved to our side of the Channel. They’ll probably organise of a few boats to carry them across, and any future migrants/refugees/asylum seekers.

And we won‘t be able to turn them back. Why? Well, we also have a number of obligations to the United Nations - of which we are on the Security Council. One of our obligations is to take in refugees any asylum seekers. Now, we would have to determine the status of each person who enters - refugee, migrant, asylum seeker? While we do (and while they are waiting for the process to be completed, appeals, etc.), we have to provide them with accommodation, food, benefits, etc.. They won’t be allowed to work, so they will be here basically living off the state and putting nothing in.

Guess what - those will be those brown people with “that” religion - which I suspect is Islam, but which you are too scared to mention for some reason.

So - the choice seems pretty simple (and potentially counter-intuitive). If you want to keep the brown Muslims off our turf, the best option is to vote to remain in the EU as you’ll be putting the onus on other EU member states to handle the crisis. We’ll keep on taking the ones from the refugee camps in Syria. If you want us to have to cope with a much larger influx of those people who in your mind are undesirable, then vote leave.

i don't think i'm going to be disappointed at all.
if the EU countries refuse to take back the illegals which enter the UK then we set up a camp in Iran and ship them there.
no disappointment involved ...

The polls (if we can trust them after last year) are in the balance, apparently.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e ... m-36271589

If true, then this will really go the the wire. I’d like to see a decent majority for the result, whatever it might be. If the decisions is made based on a 1 or 2%, then I expect there’ll be a lot of people making a lot of noise out it not going their way.