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tombolt
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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Not at all, I'm not even in the (old) top tax bracket. I'm just ideologically opposed to charging people more the more they earn.
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TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm Posts: 4955 Location: on the naughty step
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It's based on the fact that you need a certain amount to live well and the rest is luxury. So you get taxed more on "luxury money" I wouldn't have any problems with paying more taxes if the benefit system wasn't so corrupted ...
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Wed May 05, 2010 11:41 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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All the elections I can remember (say early 90's onwards) have been about what people want for the country. This election is about what we as a country can afford.
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Wed May 05, 2010 12:55 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Would you believe one of my friends just said that the entire budget deficit should be made up entirely through tax rises and not through pay freezes and job cuts at all. You can tell she's a public sector worker with a unionist background.
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Wed May 05, 2010 3:46 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Joke of the day LINKI won't ruin it by hinting what the punchline is.
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Wed May 05, 2010 4:18 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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A greater proportion maybe, but they would still take home more.
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Wed May 05, 2010 4:38 pm |
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Amnesia10
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That is a complete fallacy. They pay far less of their income on other taxes. Plus income tax would have to rise far more to have the same proportion on everyone. Also you ignore the fact that much of the wealth of the rich is shunted offshore so in order to raise the same level of taxation you would find that your own tax rates would be considerably.
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Wed May 05, 2010 6:13 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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I find it odd that many people have complained about the current system and its flaws and yet as the day gets closer they forget all that all swim along in the torrent of a biased two party system and won't vote for a party that wants reform, be they LibDem or numerous other parties.
It's understandable that people are scared but disappointing.
I wouldn't say how others should vote, that's for them and their conscience to decide. If you can live with voting for a party who you don't agree with just because of your fear then that's something that you'll have to live with.
One thing's for sure, election time does reveal the true nature of many and many base their votes on fear whether they wish to admit it or not.
I, for one, will vote for the party that talks most sense and sits well with my ideals.
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Wed May 05, 2010 6:46 pm |
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jonlumb
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
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Interestingly, this is the first time I'll have gone to vote and not been voting for something, but voting against something else.
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Wed May 05, 2010 7:00 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Cameron's got talent: Tory leader is the Prime Minister Britain needs, says Simon CowellCowell's priceless when he's writing for The Sun, who he just happens to share a load of views with: Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... z0n5VfNtcd
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Wed May 05, 2010 8:21 pm |
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pcernie
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Clegg's Hairdresser Asks: 'Nick Who?'http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politi ... 6051?f=rssHe really shouldn't have admitted that 
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Wed May 05, 2010 8:52 pm |
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okenobi
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Simon Cowell dismisses somebody else as "made for TV". Hilarious.
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Wed May 05, 2010 10:05 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Actually, it is understandable. I was a bit hasty saying fear can often affect voting patterns. It can do but then because of the nature of the voting system here tactical voting comes in to play, local issues, protest votes etc. I really would like to see a change. PR is good enough for Afghanistan and Iraq, why not for us? I imagine when instigating "democracy" it would be hard to make our system look fair, especially when you can check a website to see that your vote is not as weighty as a vote elsewhere in the country. 
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Because PR would almost always mean a Hung parliament which would make it much harder for a government to be effective.
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Thu May 06, 2010 12:21 pm |
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tombolt
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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I don't think that's a bad thing TBH. Most of the mess we're in now is because Labour had such a vast majority they could force through any hastily devised and ill-thought out law they fancied.
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Thu May 06, 2010 12:32 pm |
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