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Amnesia10
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 |  |  |  | paulzolo wrote: I kind of think he has a point though. TIntin is not American. He’s a Belgian, and as such should really speak with a Belgian French accent. Much the same applies to the other characters, though Captain Haddock could, at a pinch, be Irish - or even Scottish (his favourite drink is Loch Lomond whisky). The Thompsons seem to be working for Belgian Police (this is what we assume anyway), but they seem to get attached to Interpol and Scotland Yard from time to time. Their original names are Dupond and Dupont (French), they would be on some form of detached duty - and would speak english with a French accent also. Bianca Castafiore is Italian (she is also known as the Milanese Nightingale).
You have to look at this not from an English perspective, or even from an American one, but from a Franco-Belgian one, using the original names as a clue to what they should sound like. None of them suggest American in any way, shape or form.
The problem is that the cartoons are aimed at an American audience, and so they have to sound American to gain acceptance. It grates for me too - a lot. |  |  |  |  |
I cannot fault that logic. As Tintin is Belgian why not ensure that they have authenentic accents? At least Russell Crowe cannot hold any of the accents so he is out. 
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:41 pm |
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timark_uk
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What studio's producing? Is the money to make this American money? I totally understand the logic in being true to the character heritage, but without American money/American influence, would half the stuff we see these days be getting made? Even Doctor Who doesn't escape this one. Mark
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:53 pm |
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paulzolo
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I know. Produced on behalf of the Hergé Foundation - so a good chunk of the money would be from Belgium. HBO and Nickeoldeon ran them in the USA, and they would no doubt be aware of the US audience when dubbing into English. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Advent ... (TV_series)
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:11 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Accents are not a major problem. As long as Tintin mentions his heritage it could be set anywhere. Even a few establishing scenes set in Brussels might be enough. The original books were set all over the world, so the locations could all be in America. As long as the actor looks like the character I think we can allow some leeway. I would imagine that Tintin might not be well known to many average americans but there are a lot who might be enough to start the ball rolling.
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:23 am |
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paulzolo
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The film is CGI, so looking right should not necessarily be a problem. Tintin lives in Belgium (originally 26, Labrador Road, Brussels - later Chateau Moulinstart), and the Secret of the Unicorn/ Red Rackham’s Treasure (which are the first two films) are set in Brussels in parts. Oddly, even though Hergé uses locations in Brussels, there are very few times when he seems to use recognisable locations. It’s likely that the street scenes are of genuine locations in the city, but my knowledge of the place is not that comprehensive. It appears that the majority of the cast is British - so as for as the Americans are concerned, they get proper European accents. Jamie Bell is Tintin, Simon Pegg and Nick Frost are playing the Thompson twins, Daniel Craig is Red Rackham, Andy Serkis is Captain Haddock. Technically a good cast, and well placed for the characters being portrayed. We have yet to see how it works in practice.
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:33 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes it looks like a good cast. Though with a duff script they need all their talents to rescue it.
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:09 pm |
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paulzolo
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We don't know how duff the script is yet. Given the writers behind it, I have hopes that it will be a good'un.
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:13 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I am hopeful as well. Steven Spielberg does at least make fun entertaining films. So chances are good that it will not be a turkey.
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:26 pm |
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pcernie
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http://www.thehut.com/dvd/the-adventure ... 89967.htmlCrap connection, can't view it myself, may be rubbish, may be available cheaper etc 
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belchingmatt
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Paul, shouldn't it be Thomson and Thompson?
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:14 pm |
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paulzolo
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Yes, though they are also known as the “Thompson Twins”. There may be a reference to this nomenclature in some of the Tintin books too. If I find one, I’ll yell.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:57 pm |
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pcernie
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Steven Spielberg has spoken out about his decision to make upcoming comic adap Tintin using motion capture rather than more traditional methods.Talking with the LA Times, the director reveals his reasoning behind the controversial approach to moviemaking, as well as his thoughts on the process. “It was based on my respect for the art of Hergé and wanting to get as close to that art as I could,” Spielberg says. “Hergé wrote about fictional people in a real world, not in a fantasy universe. “It was the real universe he was working with, and he used National Geographic to research his adventure stories. It just seemed that live action would be too stylised for an audience to relate to. “You’d have to have costumes that are a little outrageous when you see actors wearing them. The costumes seem to fit better when the medium chosen is a digital one.” Once he’d tested the method out, Spielberg knew there was no turning back – like Robert Zemeckis before him, he was in love with it. “I just adored it,” he says. “It made me more like a painter than ever before. I got a chance to do so many jobs that I don’t often do as a director. “You get to paint with this device that puts you into a virtual world, and allows you to make your shots and block all the actors with a small hand-held device only three times as large as an Xbox game controller.” The Adventures Of Tintin: The Secret Of The Unicorn opens 26 October. Source: LA Times http://www.totalfilm.com/news/steven-sp ... ing-tintin
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Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:41 am |
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paulzolo
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This is very true. I felt that when I saw the live action Tintin films from the 1960s.  They just look too baggy and the fabric seems too thick. Seeing them move makes it worse as you don’t get the kind of movement the artwork suggests. You pick that up as a kid, and the illusion gets shattered.
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Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:22 pm |
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pcernie
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The Adventures Of Tintin [75 Year Anniversary Box Set], £8.99http://www.sendit.com/dvd/the-adventure ... 89967.htmlNo idea if it's any good or not...
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paulzolo
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I have it. It's all the Nelvana cartoons. I think it's pretty good. Definitely worth a punt at that price.
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