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Why can Apple sell such a dumb computer?
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bobbdobbs
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Thats 300,000 sold since advance ordering was opened, they just count all sales up to and including day one as occurring on day one. Still a nice healthy amount.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:28 pm |
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JJW009
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Is that still going? I thought Apple had given up on it. And as you say, it wasn't "original" - merely "propitiatory".
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:45 pm |
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HeatherKay
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Yes, it is still going. Some of us prefer it over USB for robustness, consistency and ability to daisychain devices. It is also "original" since Apple initiated the protocol, and worked with several others to get the IEEE standard drawn up. Just because most PC manufacturers don't pay the royalty to use it doesn't mean it's not still around out here. 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:48 pm |
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paulzolo
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If you have a tape based video camera, it’s essential.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:58 pm |
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Amnesia10
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It is also very fast to move huge volumes of files as well.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:00 pm |
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ProfessorF
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The layout of the modern notebook computer. With a palm rest for your little hands, the pointer input control human computer interface (  ) device near your thumbs, and the keyboard tucked up near the display was an Apple idea - now try finding a laptop that doesn't use this layout.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:16 pm |
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JJW009
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But that is design rather than science. It's the intelligent application of existing technology, which is what Apple are good at. As I said in my post: "they learn from the others' mistakes and meticulously design the products to be beautiful and easy to use."The Laptop: Xerox, 1968 The Touchpad: notably used by Apollo in 1983, Psion in 1989 Combined with great design: Apple PowerBook 500 in 1994.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:25 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Indeed, but the thing was it was an original idea to do it that way. Everyone stands on the shoulders of those who've gone before, and nowhere is that more true than in science. Or at a gathering of midgets trying to sneak onto a roller coaster with a minimum height allowance.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:30 pm |
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forquare1
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:36 pm |
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JJW009
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I do remember that Firewire was important for this. However, I've not seen a tape based camcorder in a high-street shop for years. The 100 different camcorders you'll find in Dixons are solid state or HDD and have USB. Even most Apple products no longer support Firewire. Why would they when USB is so totally ubiquitous, cheaper and faster for general use and eSATA is the performance standard for consumer mass storage devices. Dead or alive, this is all rather off-topic and irrelevant. Firewire was just yet another serial bus interface, and not an original concept.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:39 pm |
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Nick
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I don't quite see your point JJ. Are you saying Apple don't innovate? 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:44 pm |
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Linux_User
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As far as I can tell he's saying that Apple improve existing ideas/designs, rather than come up with entirely new ones. He's also saying that Apple are clever by allowing a technology to mature before attempting to implement their own version.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:47 pm |
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forquare1
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:50 pm |
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JJW009
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This what I'm trying to say... but not very eloquent like and with much random sidetracking 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:01 pm |
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ChurchCat
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Well they have done a lot of stuff over the years. Apple I Apple II Lisa Macintosh 128k and later versions Macintosh classic an Macintosh II Macintosh TV Macintosh Centris and Quadra iMac (CRT version. Lampshade and Flat panel) eMac Mac Mini Mac Pro Macintosh Performa iBook Powerbook MacBook MacBook Air Apple TV iPhone iPod iPad Newton Time Capsule Airport/Airport Express System software 2 through 7.5 Mac OS 7.6 through 9.2 Mac OS X iPhone OS To name but a few. They seem to cause quite a stir at product launches to say that it has all been seen before. Are we certain none of it was their own work? That does seem a bit disingenuous. 
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