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forquare1
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Is there a good "Politics for dummies" site with some sort of a matrix of the main parties? I just want the info in layman's terms... I know nothing about politics, and all this political talk just bores me to death...
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:41 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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You think this place is a democracy? 
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:43 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
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Labour - tax and spend spend spend. 99% of the time they spend money they haven't got. Conservatives - Traditionally they're the low spending, tax cutting party. However there is no room for tax cuts at this election. Lib Dem - Very PC and Pro Europe, not sure what else they stand for, probably why nobody votes for them. BNP - Racist f**kwits SNP - want Scottish independence UKIP - Want the UK out of the EU. Green - Eco-hippies with no sense of reality. Monster Raving Loony - the only trust worthy ones out there. They may be mad, but they've no need to lie.
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:47 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Check this out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ ... efault.stmThere's a "Making it Clear" box on the right-hand side where you can choose an issue from a drop-down box and it will tell you where the main parties stand on that issue.
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:56 pm |
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bubbles
Occasionally has a life
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 |  |  |  | l3v1ck wrote: Labour - tax and spend spend spend. 99% of the time they spend money they haven't got. like to make sure everyone is equal and beilive the rich can afford the extra taxes, hence why the rich get taxed more. by equal i mean free schooling and everything else we take for granted.Conservatives - Traditionally they're the low spending, tax cutting party. However there is no room for tax cuts at this election. like to sell everything off (apart from the nhs..) so that everyone has to pay for everything, aka the rich can afford while the poor have to suffer moreLib Dem - Very PC and Pro Europe, not sure what else they stand for, probably why nobody votes for them. wants everyone to be equal, good idea's but never get voted for because it will most likly never workBNP - Racist f**kwits SNP - want Scottish independence UKIP - Want the UK out of the EU. Green - Eco-hippies with no sense of reality. have some good points but are just there to make noiseMonster Raving Loony - the only trust worthy ones out there. They may be mad, but they've no need to lie. needs more supporters  |  |  |  |  |
my take on things, why everyone hates labour so much is utter stupid, yes they brought us into a recession, but if you havnt noticed the entire world is in one.
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:26 pm |
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rustybucket
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LibDem here. I'm leafleting for the local candidate (a nice chap he is) so I guess I'd better vote for him. Besides which, my constituency is one of the 31 marginals being fought by the Tories with Ashcroft's dosh. Annoys me it does. 
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:38 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Also the Tories are against any form or bank regulation as well. So we will have a financial crisis in the future, but the bankers will still get their bonuses.
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:50 pm |
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forquare1
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Cheers LU 
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:57 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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No problem - I've also just noticed that it on the policy pages there are more drop-down boxes that let you change Party (for example swap out the Conservatives for Plaid Cymru).
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:58 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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They just throw money at stuff and hope it works. Often the money is wasted on point paperwork and inefficiency. That was bodged to be sure, but at least they try to do things efficiently and they don't keep spending massively more than the tax system bring in. Even before the downturn when the economy was strong Labour was borrowing billions every year to fund unsustainable growth in public services. Labour don't recognise hard work or effort anywhere in there beliefs. They think that everyone should be the same regardless of how much effort they make. Where's the motivation? Labour say you should pay for your own retirement care if you assets are more than £20k. Why would people work hard to save for themselves if Labour are going to take it all off them and give it to those who couldn't be bothered to? As I said earlier, Labour were guilty of massive financial mismanagement long before the global downturn. As far as I know the only years they haven't borrowed were their first two years in power when they stuck to Tory spending limits and the year when mobile phone firms paid billions for 3G licenses. Yes we'd all like a perfectly funded NHS, but we as a country simple don't make enough money to fund that. I also hate them as they want to spy on everything I do. They're megolamiacs, they want to micromanage everything and everyone. Plus they prefer to punish everyone rather than just the guilty. (Drink fuelled violence, dangerous dogs etc).
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:20 am |
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dogbert10
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:23 pm Posts: 638 Location: 3959 miles from the centre of the Earth - give or take a bit
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Neither does Labour: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... regulationSecond paragraph: "We need to change the way banks are regulated and internally governed, but neither the Labour government's proposals (pdf) nor the Conservatives' plans attend to this." It goes back to the age-old problem of motivation, and nowadays the only thing that motivates most people is money. If you put someone in a job that offers no reward for excellent performance, why bother? Bankers may not be flavour of the decade, but they're still needed, and they still need to be motivated. Hit them too hard and the financial district of London could become a wasteland. The problem is keeping them motivated but making sure that any bonus is linked to long-term performance rather than short-term gain.
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:32 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:35 am |
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jonlumb
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
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At the moment, I've not voted, simply because that's my current position, especially as I haven't actually gone and read any manifestos yet. Currently I am at the spoil the ballot level, but then again I'm really not a huge fan of Ben Bradshaw (our current MP), so I may end up voting to remove him rather than particularly for the party I want (especially as it doesn't seem to exist).
I am finding the whole thing very frustrating.
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:51 am |
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Amnesia10
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I think that the banks should be broken up. Then at that point I have no objections to what they pay the staff. The problem is now that the banks are too big and take too many risks. If they were smaller the directors would at least have an idea of what the banks were buying and investing in. If the investment banking were split off then we have no reason to worry about the pay of bank staff. If they go bust then they will not be bailed out by the tax payer and as such they can pay their staff what they want.
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:55 am |
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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
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Well that's a delightfully eloquent way of agreeing with me and then continuing to vote Conversative on the basis of blame. Congratulations sir, you win a prize - another 5 years of bollocks from the other side of the house.
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:18 am |
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