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Well, I have to admit that I stopped watching Lost after it went to Sky, so have no idea what happened after the first season as I only have Freeview, but I was at my parents (who have Sky) when the finale was on so curiosity got the better of me and I switched over to see how it ended.

Now, I was aware that a few characters had bitten the dust along the way. But, what a load of old sh1t that was, I'm so glad that I hadn't invested hours of my life in that show only for it to end that that. Really, really weak. I would feel really cheated if I had followed it over all the seasons only to be fed a cop-out ending like that.

It only strengthens my reasoning never to watch these 20-odd episode US series (apart from 24), as they never have the staying power to keep my interest and they rarely end with any believable answers. There are always more questions left than answered.

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Again with the [LIFTED] questions bollocks. Does anybody read a thing a post on this forum??

Not to mention the title of Oli's thread and yet everybody feels the need to come in here and hate.


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Again with the [LIFTED] questions bollocks. Does anybody read a thing a post on this forum??


Again with [LIFTED] "it's a character show and always has been" bollocks. Wake up, the Emperor has no clothes.

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Again with the [LIFTED] questions bollocks.

We're all entitled to an opinion, aren't we?
Or not, unless we agree with your view of the world?

Besides, if I'd invested 6 whole days of my life in a series, I'd expect some [LIFTED] answers!! :roll:
I'm glad I only wasted a day on it.

As for the "(Only for people who have watched it)" part, well I have watched it - just not all of it, that's all. If it's a problem I suggest the title is changed to "Lost Series Finale (Only for people who have watched all of it, and agree with okenobi)"
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Blimey, someone took an angry pill this morning.

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It seems to me that this thread has Lost it's way somewhat... Did you see what I did there?

FFS guys, lighten up... it's only a T.V. show!

I'll go now.

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It seems to me that this thread has Lost it's way somewhat... Did you see what I did there?

FFS guys, lighten up... it's only a T.V. show!

I'll go now.


Yeah get LOST John….. see what I did back :D

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John_Vella wrote:
It seems to me that this thread has Lost it's way somewhat... Did you see what I did there?

FFS guys, lighten up... it's only a T.V. show!

I'll go now.


Yeah get LOST John….. see what I did back :D


Yes I did see. You instructed me to buy the box set when it's released, but you didn't specify if I should get it on DVD or Blu-Ray!

Did you see what I did there? :P

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For the record, I don't expect people to agree with me. Far from it, I enjoy a debate more than the next guy. What's getting to me is that whenever I take the time to construct a post of any length or consequence where I've really thought about what I want to say (which tbh is more often than not), people don't read it and the conversation stays where it was. This thread was for discussion of the finale, which a few of us had been looking forward to. Several people expressed opinions and that's fine, in fact that's exactly what you want. However, when I try to explain how I feel some people are missing the point, nobody directly challenges me on what I've said, they just continue to post in the same vain as the other haters.

Similar things have happened in other threads and I try really hard to remain receptive and keep contributing to the wonderful place we have here, but I find it very difficult when people don't want to engage me and it appears they just want to attack without reading what I've posted and arguing my points. I've discussed the problems of the show both here and in other threads and I'm not saying it was the best thing ever - far from it. I would just like to think that people might try to understand some times and not simply ignore or attack me.

Over the past few weeks it seems I'm the new Marklar and I don't want that. I was gonna just leave this, but I wanted to make my position clear in case anybody's interested. Feel free to continue hating without me....


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Over the past few weeks it seems I'm the new Marklar and I don't want that. I was gonna just leave this, but I wanted to make my position clear in case anybody's interested. Feel free to continue hating without me....


Apologies if my posts appear overly attacking. I wouldn't want that. However, I do feel you're feeling unnecessarily victimised. There are apologists for the finale and people who are disappointed with it. The apologists seem to be in the minority (though only slightly) and neither side can understand the other's point of view. For me it's because the two sides were watching the show for different reasons.

The reason I'm on the answers side is because that is what the show was advertised as, that's what we've been promised time and time again and it's clear to me we've been short-changed and treated like mugs. There's a large minority of people, such as yourself, who were just watching it for its own sake and are more than happy with the outcome.

The finale in isolation as a show wasn't bad, but without the answers, it was completely inconclusive to end the whole show on as far as I'm concerned.

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okenobi wrote:
Over the past few weeks it seems I'm the new Marklar and I don't want that. I was gonna just leave this, but I wanted to make my position clear in case anybody's interested. Feel free to continue hating without me....


Apologies if my posts appear overly attacking. I wouldn't want that. However, I do feel you're feeling unnecessarily victimised. There are apologists for the finale and people who are disappointed with it. The apologists seem to be in the minority (though only slightly) and neither side can understand the other's point of view. For me it's because the two sides were watching the show for different reasons.

The reason I'm on the answers side is because that is what the show was advertised as, that's what we've been promised time and time again and it's clear to me we've been short-changed and treated like mugs. There's a large minority of people, such as yourself, who were just watching it for its own sake and are more than happy with the outcome.

The finale in isolation as a show wasn't bad, but without the answers, it was completely inconclusive to end the whole show on as far as I'm concerned.


As I said Tom, this thread is a culmination of threads for me, but thank you for a considered and explanatory response. Although I enjoyed the finale, I'm still able to understand the holes in both it and the show, but I choose to see the overall picture. I think if more had watched Alias, they would know more of what to expect from a JJ show. I never look at advertising and try to take any piece of art on its merits. I've watched far too much television in the past 15yrs, so perhaps my expectations are always going to be different. In any case, I respect what your saying and I thank you for saying it.


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I completely understand where you’re coming from okenobi

What holds me back is my Grammar and spelling which is why I don’t write many posts although I do read most of them on topics I enjoy. I also have to think twice before I post because my views are very strong and normally always in the opposed direction of the post which then tend to get ignored or I get shot down in flames.... There are some very strong tight groups within the forum which tend to bios peoples opinions on some subjects.

Anyway I've been trying to plug away on this and the old forum for that last 8 years so I'm kinda use to it now.... but I still enjoy the forum and the guys and girls on it.

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Charlie Brooker's Screen burn: Lost & 24 (contains Ashes To Ashes spoiler for those who haven't seen it)

Lost's final episode made less sense than a milk hammock.

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I gave up on Lost (Sky1) some time during the first season, having decided it was just a bunch of irritating people going "woo" on a rock in the sea. An episode detailing Charlie the rock star's backstory, replete with hammy flashbacks to a wildly implausible version of Manchester, was the final straw. But since then I'd heard from devoted fans, who insisted that despite a few major wobbles somewhere round the halfway point, it was actually well worth watching.

I never acted on their advice. I could've bought the box set, I suppose, but that'd be a lot of investment in a show which had annoyed me so much in the past. Best just to tune in to the final two episodes ever instead, then. I can probably just pick up the story, right? Wrong. Thumpingly, obviously wrong. Far from clearing up the mystery of what the island was and why they were there, from my uninformed point of view, the finale consisted of random sequences in which irritating people went "woo" on a rock in the sea and in a city, apparently simultaneously. The city was purgatory and the island was real. Or was it the other way round? Characters I recognised rubbed shoulders with strangers, all of whom were imbuing each line of dialogue with such sombre, knowing significance, you could be forgiven for assuming we were witnessing the end of history itself.

The plot made less sense than a milk hammock. Jack was apparently no longer Jack, but a man who looked like Jack. He was certainly just as punchably earnest as I remember. There was much kerfuffle over a kind of magic reset button located down a well in the middle of the island. The story ended with alternative-universe-Jack having an existential chat with his dead dad. I remembered Jack's boring daddy issues from the first season; back then they struck me as a spectacularly tedious attempt to give our clean-cut hero some depth. Has any viewer, in the history of film and television, ever actually cared about a lead character's parents? Faced with a character as blankly dull as Jack, I'd be more interested in learning about the tortured background of a piece of office furniture.

Anyway, having healed his life, Jack was free to stand around in an imaginary church backslapping other Lost characters while the room was filled with heavenly light: the end. Intense and moving, no doubt, for loyal fans of the show. Might as well have been a pretentious building society advert for anyone else.

But Lost isn't the only series coming to an end. Ashes To Ashes, Law & Order, 24, Heroes: it's almost as though populist TV drama itself is shutting down. Some shows, like Heroes, don't have an opportunity to plan for their own deaths, leaving the characters stuck in limbo. Others, like Lost and Ashes To Ashes, turn out to have been in limbo all along. Limbo's very much in vogue at the moment. In fact there's roughly a 50% chance that any serial you're following will turn out to be set there. All this publicity must be doing wonders for the Limbo tourist industry.

Of course saying "aha, it was limbo all along" is just a marginally more profound way of saying "aha, it was a dream all along", a trope which became a cliche through overuse. There's no room for any more limbo-based programming, so anything currently on air is going to have to find a different way of ending, which sadly means 24 (Sun, 9pm, Sky1) – which finishes for good in a fortnight – won't conclude with Jack Bauer kicking his way through Hell and kneeing Satan in the bollocks. Another twist is necessary. Here's hoping it transpires the whole thing took place in a paperback novel being read by Shaz from Ashes To Ashes, who was herself being daydreamt by Sawyer from Lost – while he was trying to think up a satisfying conclusion for Heroes. That or it pulls out to reveal it all took place in a cat's bum. A cat's bum doing a poo. I am 39 years old.


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Watched it now (house move delayed it). I think I know this.....

1) they did survive the plane crash and live on the island
2) as they die (on the island or much later in life for those that 'got away') they went to purgatory - the 'alternative' world we've been seeing in the last series
3) once they resolve their issues - with help from Desmond in most cases - they found each other and go on to the afterlife collectively

I also took from it that Hurley became the new protector and had Ben working for him which was the 'no1, no2' speech outside of the church. Ben obviously wasnt ready yet to move on though.

That kind of wrapped it up for me and I quite liked it. It was quite an emotional finale too.

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