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jonbwfc
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Well, I don't think anyone with any degree of responsibility about them would describe the 'having more kids to get more benefit money' stuff as a good thing. Unfortunately if we say we as a society aren't prepared to allow children to live in poverty (which I hope we aren't), some people are going to abuse the system. Even if we impose a limit, some people are going to call the bluff - have one kid more than the limit and say 'OK, what are you going to do now?' If we assume fostering is by definition better for children than living in an orphanage, then it's probably a necessary evil. At least in that case society has some control, when someone who already has X foster children applies to foster more, the authorities can just say no. It's not like we're forcibly terminating someone's pregnancy.
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l3v1ck
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Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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IMO you should only get benefits (of any sort) calculated for two (maybe three) children. It's not the tax payers job to fund a huge family.
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Amnesia10
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Many people want a large family and benefits never feature in their calculation. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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l3v1ck
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And they're most welcom to have a large family if that's what they want. I just don't think the tax payer should have to pay out for all of them, whether it's child allowance, tex credits, large council houses etc.
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Amnesia10
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I think housing benefit will be capped anyway and the big families that I know do not live in big houses. That might be a Tory myth. There was a program about large families on the TV last year and none were on benefits IIRC, and people do not make a fortune on child benefit. I have no problems with child benefit. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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tombolt
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I find that a strange attitude to come from a frenchie, no wonder you live over here!
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jonbwfc
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Left my chritmassey avatar on long past twelfth night...
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big_D
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It is people like Octomom that really get me! She has 14 kids and the octuplets wre on IVF! I mean wtf! How does a woman with more than 6 kids get IVF with donor sperm?!?!
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Amnesia10
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She may have lied about her circumstances to get IVF. It does seem wrong. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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belchingmatt
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Liking the new one. In fact I was thinking about that cat just a couple of days ago....
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belchingmatt
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What sort of speargun I should buy?
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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jonlumb
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It's a question I ask myself on a near daily basis. Would come in handy for shooting out the tires of twattish motorists I encounter on my way to work.
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oceanicitl
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How the hell does Nigella look so good when she loves her food so much?
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jonbwfc
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Professional makeup artists and sympathetic camera angles  .
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ProfessorF
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