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Spy Sports News is running a ticker tape story that from March 2012 Sky will be showing a dedicated F1 channel - called Sky Sports F1 HD, imaginatively. Not much details in the ticker but they do say it will be screening all the qualifying & races live in HD. God knows what they're going to fill the rest of the time with mind. Other motorsports possibly?

Also no info as to whether it'll be thrown in with a Sky Sports sub, or whether you'll have to pay more for it...

Update : More info via the Guardian Looks like it will be thrown in either with a Sky Sports or a HD sub, with a SD version for people who have Sky Sports but not HD. And no other racing, it's a pure F1 channel. That's going to see a lot of dead air, I reckon.

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Is there any news whether this will be on Freeview? Even if it was on TopUP TV I would be tempted if the price was right.

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Is there any news whether this will be on Freeview? Even if it was on TopUP TV I would be tempted if the price was right.

If not, I imagine the internet is going to take a right hammering as everyone gets the live stream from various places :lol:

Seriously - very few people would install Sky just for one event, especially if they're renting.

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I'm sure there is something in the Concorde Agreement about F1 being free to air. Unless the BBC having 10 races covers that.

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IIRC 'F1' isn't one of the protected events, although the British GP specifically may be.

Hmm.. maybe not. Wikipedia says

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In the UK, the regulations set out in the Ofcom Code on Sports and Other Listed & Designated Events dictate that some sporting events must have coverage made available to free-to-air channels. "Category A" events should be available live, while "Category B" events should be available as highlights or with a short delay.


According to the OFCOM web site, The following are Category A

FIFA World Cup finals (all matches)
UEFA European Football Championship finals (all matches)
FA Cup final
Scottish Cup final (applies to Scotland only)
Grand National
Epsom Derby
RL Challenge Cup final
RU World Cup final
Wimbledon Championships men's and women's finals
Olympic Games (it is not stated explicitly whether this refers to the Winter or Summer Games, or both)

The following are Category B

IAAF World Championships
Cricket Test matches played in England
Cricket World Cup (the final, semi-finals, and any matches involving the Home Nations)
The Open (golf)
The Ryder Cup
Formula 1 motor racing
RU World Cup (excluding the final)
RU Six Nations Championship matches involving the Home Nations
Wimbledon Championships (excluding the finals)
Commonwealth Games


According to that, there's no legal requirement in the UK for all races to be shown live, anywhere.
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IIRC it was the Concorde Agreement between the FIA and the F1 teams that stated that every race had to be free to watch (or something).

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IIRC it was the Concorde Agreement between the FIA and the F1 teams that stated that every race had to be free to watch (or something).

It's all just speculation though, isn't it?

The details of the Concorde Agreement have not been, nor are they likely to be, disclosed to the public.

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Think it's sad that Brundle's now getting some stick on twitter, I can't blame the guy for wanting the best opportunity for the race commentary. The BBC have pretty much shafted the F1 Team, along with the fans.

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Can confirm I'll be commentating on Sky Sports F1 in 2012. All races live on dedicated F1 channel + more tech features is what motivates me


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Few tweets of 'sell out' or 'traitor'. After 15 yrs of F1 comm I've made a career choice, don't recall any promises or obligations to anyone


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Many fans saying they will come to Sky F1 with me,others don't want/can't afford to. Completely understand. BBC changed course, I've reacted


And I thought Jake Humphrey's little dig in response to Martin's first announcement was pretty childish...
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Really happy with that, an audience of many millions is what motivates me!


...thought it was a bit frosty between those two on the F1 Forum on Sunday! Good on Brundle for not rising to that snide comment!

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Fogmeister wrote:
IIRC it was the Concorde Agreement between the FIA and the F1 teams that stated that every race had to be free to watch (or something).

It's all just speculation though, isn't it?

The details of the Concorde Agreement have not been, nor are they likely to be, disclosed to the public.

The current agreement (2009) is public. However, it is currently being changed now that Sky has come on board.

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Think it's sad that Brundle's now getting some stick on twitter, I can't blame the guy for wanting the best opportunity for the race commentary. The BBC have pretty much shafted the F1 Team, along with the fans.

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Can confirm I'll be commentating on Sky Sports F1 in 2012. All races live on dedicated F1 channel + more tech features is what motivates me


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Few tweets of 'sell out' or 'traitor'. After 15 yrs of F1 comm I've made a career choice, don't recall any promises or obligations to anyone


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Many fans saying they will come to Sky F1 with me,others don't want/can't afford to. Completely understand. BBC changed course, I've reacted


And I thought Jake Humphrey's little dig in response to Martin's first announcement was pretty childish...
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Really happy with that, an audience of many millions is what motivates me!


...thought it was a bit frosty between those two on the F1 Forum on Sunday! Good on Brundle for not rising to that snide comment!

If I was in the same position as Brundle I think I'd have done the same thing.

He's probably getting quite a bit more in his wallet for the move also.

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Pathetic really - I really enjoy Brundle's commentary, along with DC, and I am gutted that he won't be commenting on the BBC next year. You can hardly blame the guy for wanting to protect his career though. The beeb are squeezing the purse ever more tightly, and I bet SKY were willing to throw money at him.

I'll see how it goes, with limited live coverage, a weakened commentary team, and extended highlights. I certainly will NOT be forking out extra money to watch it on SKY.

My fear is that this is but the first step along the path to exclusive TV rights for SKY, at which point I shall stop watching the races live.

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Jake is staying at the BBC for the Olympics I think.

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Personally I can’t wait for the F1 Sky channel in true HD and now Martin is joining the team its excellent news imo. Don’t get me wrong the last three years have been excellent coverage on the BBC but like all good things it’s come to an end. DC looks like his hanging on in there with the Beeb though.

Edit - good result on the Guru for me! Edd you nearly had me in the closing stages but I managed to pullout a lead again a couple of races ago and Spreadie got a head of steam up in the lat quarter.

Double Edit – Raikkonen returns to F1 with two-year Lotus Renault deal

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im happy that the sky team are allowing it for people in HD without a sport sub, and its going to be on sky go. so I can watch the races at uni while my parents still have a sky sub :D

also, I did not see kimi joining lotus, does this mean petrov is gone?

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jonbwfc wrote:
Spy Sports News is running a ticker tape story that from March 2012 Sky will be showing a dedicated F1 channel - called Sky Sports F1 HD, imaginatively. Not much details in the ticker but they do say it will be screening all the qualifying & races live in HD. God knows what they're going to fill the rest of the time with mind. Other motorsports possibly?
Also no info as to whether it'll be thrown in with a Sky Sports sub, or whether you'll have to pay more for it...
Update : More info via the Guardian Looks like it will be thrown in either with a Sky Sports or a HD sub, with a SD version for people who have Sky Sports but not HD. And no other racing, it's a pure F1 channel. That's going to see a lot of dead air, I reckon.
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Is there any news whether this will be on Freeview?

It'll never be on freeview. It might be on BT Vision, which uses the freeview platform to deliver pay services.


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Even if it was on TopUP TV I would be tempted if the price was right.

Is TopUpTV still going? Blimey.

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james016 wrote:
Is there any news whether this will be on Freeview?

It'll never be on freeview. It might be on BT Vision, which uses the freeview platform to deliver pay services.

I thought it was confirmed that it will be on Freeview but only if you payt the £10 a month for the channel or something.

http://duncanblog.dailymail.co.uk/2011/ ... -2012.html

Well, it's from the Daily Fail so who knows?!

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