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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5836
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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Actually there's a much better way of forgetting about something and that's NOT commemorating it. Ignoring it. Letting it fade away. His premise is bunk.
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soddit112
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:12 pm Posts: 2020 Location: Mute City
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bought two giant boxes of Jaffa Cakes (metre long sticks I found in Tescos, 60 Jaffas in a box for about £6) anyway, just finished the first big box, and feel a little fat since i bought them on Thursday 
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Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:14 pm |
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oceanicitl
Official forum cat lady
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:04 am Posts: 11039 Location: London
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Don't buy sweet stuff 
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Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:27 pm |
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james016
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 5:52 pm Posts: 1899
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You can post in Bratty's fat thread now. 
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leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 pm Posts: 5071 Location: Manchester
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I think you miss Alan Bennett's sentiment here. Commemorating something allows us to view it in an idealised "respect for those who have passed" way. It allows us to avoid any criticism that may be laid at the door of the country's politicians at the time. We remember the war, but we don't really think about it. We are blinded by the monuments, and there is a sense that the actions are unquestioningly noble. By even suggesting "we" were at fault is seen as cheapening the actions of the men. It doesn't. We forget that war is usually totally avoidable, and by giving honour to the men because they fight for us, we transfer some of that honour to the country as a whole, when really the country may have been acting wholly without honour.
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Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:28 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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That maybe so to some but that wasn't the history I was taught. I was taught that WWI was not only avoidable it was almost perverse. That millions died over geopolitical points most people, even those making the decisions, didn't even understand. That it was an entirely futile exercise and waste of life on a global scale. WWII is perhaps different but in that case it deems us to remember that if you let extremists take control, war is usually an inevitable consequence. More modern wars are generally more circumspect, but it's a gross generalisation to say that we should ignore wars because in ignoring them we rob them of value. Wars have value. They have the value of showing us how stupid we can be. I want these things to be remembered. I want people to look at what happened and say 'we won't get fooled again'. Because there's a lot of truth in the maxim 'those who forget the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat them'. I don't believe that glorifying the valour and duty of soldiers is the same as glorifying war. The two are not at all the same thing. Particularly WWI is synonymous with the phrase 'lions lead by donkeys'. That's a very pithy way to venerate the soldier while denigrating the war they fought. While.. certain politicians may believe there is glory in war, I think most of the rest of us have seen enough to know that's a hollow boast. Jon
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brataccas
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:14 pm Posts: 5664 Location: Scotland
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serbians caused WW1  franz ferdinand of austria-hungary assasination, IIRC just one man it all it took 
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Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:09 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Thanks to Mr Lumb I'm now using Foobar2000 instead of iTunes. 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:39 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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Any good? I don't mean "is it better than iTunes?", thats a given.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:45 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I like it. I stuck with iTunes for so long as I liked the layout. Foobar is just as good if not better in that department as you can change colours etc. I like the build in FLAC encoder. The only tiny tiny drawback is it's not just a button click to repeat or randomise, it's a few button clicks. 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:03 pm |
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Fogmeister
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:35 pm Posts: 6580 Location: Getting there
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:44 pm |
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Fogmeister
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:49 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Song Lyrics: Tim Minchin - Fat Children  |  |  |  | Quote: Do not feed doughnuts to your obese children You will regret it when they're in their teens Maccas might shut them up now that they're seven But they won't forgive you when They're getting picked last for PE Don't you see?
Boombalata [LIFTED] Have you noticed that yo kids are fat? What are you going to do about that? What are you going to do?
So you telling me that your family Has a history of obesity You got a wire loose in your pituitary It's just the way that God made me
It's unlikely, statistically To be a physical thing But either way it don't explain why you Are in the cue at Burger King
You can blame it on biology You can blame your physiology You can point to genealogy And your social anthropology
You can say you are an ectomorph That you just can't get the kilos orf Well you can be what you wanna be But stop feeding that boy KFC
He weighs 30 kilos and he's only three He looks like a clean-shaven Pavarotti
Switching to Diet Coke is not the way back Boombalata [LIFTED] Your kid's a fat, have you noticed that? Your 5 year old princess in her size 14 tutu Only eats pizza like that because you do And you, ought to be ashamed For you have only got yourself to blame
Will be dead of a heart attack Before your grandchildren are ten Perhaps you'll consider A cut-back on extra fries then
Boombalata kiddie-stuffer Have you noticed that your kids are fat? What are you gonna do about that? What are you gonna do?
So you're telling me that your family Has a history of obesity You got the polycystic ovaries Your mum had childhood diabetes
But, and in your case There's a [LIFTED] big butt Do you think it's an appropriate treat The all-you-can-eat at Pizza Hut?
There's no excuse you silly goose For a child with a caboose Like a moose who's eaten too much mousse It's tantamount to child abuse
Kick them off the [LIFTED] couch Unplug the Playstation Send them down to the park If they don't wanna go, make 'em
Tell them they have to jog Until their jogging shorts fit 'em If they hesitate, ask firmly If they still resist, hit 'em
Is this what you want for your girl and your guy? These chips off the pork chop, for the toffee apples of your eye? Kit Kats in value packs are not the way back Boombalata [LIFTED] Your kids are fat, did ya notice that?
And you, you should feel ashamed For you have only got yourself to blame Your 6 year old miniature Jabba the Hut Eating half melted Mars Bars from the folds of his gut He'll be looking for a kidney Before your grandchildren are ten Perhaps you'll consider A cut-back on Taco Bell then Perhaps you'll consider A cut-back on Krispy Kreme doughnuts And Popcorn in bucket-sized boxes And microwave pizza or drive through McDonalds For weeknightly dinners in front of the TV And notes to the phys-ed instructor saying Timmy has asthma but he really just gets short of breath Cos he's 35 kilos above the ideal weight Of 35 kilos for a nine year old boy |  |  |  |  |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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I got to see him at the end of last year (I think?!?) in Newcastle, well worth going to see if you get the chance, even in an Arena.
_________________ Fogmeister I ventured into Solitude but didn't really do much. jonbwfc I was behind her in a queue today - but I wouldn't describe it as 'bushy'.
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