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Thanks to the [LIFTED] vegetarian staying, bacon isn't happening today.
FFS.
I feel like going round their house and demanding a steak. :evil:

WTF? If some rabbit food eating hippy came to my house and told me I couldn't cook bacon for myself, I'd show them the door.
If they don't want to eat it, fine. But don't you dare tell me what I can and can't eat!
That sort of [LIFTED] really pisses me off.

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I was vegetarian for a while because of a girlfriend and I didn't mind other people cooking/eating meat. What the fudge was the vegetarian's issue?


My wife's veggie, but she has no problem with cooking meat or being around meat.

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That's fine then. It's when they tell others what to do that gets my goat.

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ProfessorF wrote:
Thanks to the [LIFTED] vegetarian staying, bacon isn't happening today.
FFS.
I feel like going round their house and demanding a steak. :evil:

You're a far more tollerant host than I am. I'd be breaking out the big guns, and cooking a full english every morning.

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The passive aggressive thing to do is to cook whatever they (the veggie) is getting first and leave it in the oven 'to keep warm' while everything else is cooked so that it ends up being inedible cardboard. Alternatively just rub a slice of ham over everything while they're not looking. :twisted:

I have no problems with veggies but dictating to someone else what they can and can't have in their own house is frankly taking the p!ss and must not be tolerated.

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The passive aggressive thing to do is to cook whatever they (the veggie) is getting first and leave it in the oven 'to keep warm' while everything else is cooked so that it ends up being inedible cardboard. Alternatively just rub a slice of ham over everything while they're not looking. :twisted:

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I have no problems with veggies but dictating to someone else what they can and can't have in their own house is frankly taking the p!ss and must not be tolerated.

It certainly seems... impolite. It's reasonable for a host to provide for a guest's particular dietary preferences (whether through metabolism or choice) but to require everyone else to abide by those restrictions seems very self-centered.

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I have no problems with veggies but dictating to someone else what they can and can't have in their own house is frankly taking the p!ss and must not be tolerated.

It certainly seems... impolite. It's reasonable for a host to provide for a guest's particular dietary preferences (whether through metabolism or choice) but to require everyone else to abide by those restrictions seems very self-centered.

Polite way to put it! I've never met a vegi that actually dictated to others; although "being offended on other's behalf" and pandering can have the same result while actually being someone else's fault.

Relevant to my weekend which I'll post elsewhere. My vegi friends are awesome like all my friends.

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I am very happy to eat Veggie / Vegan / whatever at their house, provided they reciprocate when visiting me. If they prefer not to eat something I am cooking, given sufficient notice I reserve the right to possibly offer an alternative, on the understanding that next time I'm round at their's a similar offer is made.

Was at a BBQ this weekend, where the main cook is a veggie, sausages, burgers and steaks were all offered and cooked very well, (apart from a touch of confusion between pork steaks and beef steaks which I put down to alcohol), as such you can rest assured he will be offered a veggie version of whatever I am cooking next time he visits.

As with most things, I am happy for you to believe what you want, and live life as you will, but don't try to force your way of life on me and expect a happy clappy response.


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ProfessorF wrote:
Thanks to the [LIFTED] vegetarian staying, bacon isn't happening today.
FFS.
I feel like going round their house and demanding a steak. :evil:

'Scuse me?

No.

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Was at a BBQ this weekend, where the main cook is a veggie, sausages, burgers and steaks were all offered and cooked very well, (apart from a touch of confusion between pork steaks and beef steaks which I put down to alcohol), as such you can rest assured he will be offered a veggie version of whatever I am cooking next time he visits.


That's something that has always puzzled me. If someone's vegetarian, they presumably don't eat or cook meat. So how can they then cook a meat dish? One of my girlfriends was vegetarian and wouldn't go near meat. She wouldn't even think about cooking it, but if she did, I'm sure she would have had no idea how to cook it.

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My sister's a veggie and makes the second-best roast I've ever tasted.

(The best is her mother-in-law but shhhh..... ;) )

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That's something that has always puzzled me. If someone's vegetarian, they presumably don't eat or cook meat. So how can they then cook a meat dish? One of my girlfriends was vegetarian and wouldn't go near meat. She wouldn't even think about cooking it, but if she did, I'm sure she would have had no idea how to cook it.

Rather depends why the person is vegetarian doesn't it?

Friend of mine is a veggie. She comes from a very prestigious family of Midlands butchers, been the family trade for about 10 generations. She went veggie as a way of pissing off her parents (who she's not got on with since she was yay high to a wossname). After she moved out she found she had just lost the appetite for meat, so she doesn't eat it and hasn't since. However because of her family upbringing, she can tell you pretty much where every cut of meat is from on the animal it came from and how best to cook it. She just wouldn't do so herself.

Not everyone is vegetarian out of some evangelical ideal they have to then try to convert everyone to. Although the ones who are are.... tiresome.


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My wife's a veggie because she doesn't really like the taste, texture and idea of meat, she doesn't have any ideological reasons for it.

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My wife's a veggie because she doesn't really like the taste, texture and idea of meat, she doesn't have any ideological reasons for it.

Unlike my mother who is clearing doing it for political reasons.There is an affected reaction to things to do with meat - you get a small delay between her hearing something and some kind of wincing reaction which,mot me, seems to happen just a little too slowly which makes me think it's something she has trained herself to do. It's all bundled up in the animal rights stuff she's involved with.

The really annoying part or this was the conversation about the catering for the wedding (and the wife's parent's celebration which was a separate event). I was asked if the food was going to be vegan. Given that at the second event the vegans (my mum and sister) we're outnumbered by carnivores by 15:1 at event 2 it was not going to happen. I told her that really they're have to meet us half way. We had done what we could with the catered for both venues to get food that is as non-meat and as vegetarian as possible. We just can't ignore the majority who eat meat.

Sadly, this conversation caused some upset with the wife as she felt (rightly, I think) that we had done everything that we could. Also, like others have said he, she feels that if vegetarians can dictate what is served at a carnivore's event, it's only right that carnivores can expect meat when going to a vegetarian's event.

Apparently, according to my sister, the food was fine. They both had more than one plate load, so we needn't worry. I'll talk to my dad about this as I think he has the worst of it. He's not vegetarian (let alone vegan), but it's been imposed on him. He'll understand the tricky path that has to be walked.

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