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pcernie
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The amount of money the Queen gets from the taxpayer to run her household will be frozen at £7.9m, Chancellor George Osborne has announced.
Mr Osborne said the freeze was made with the monarch's full agreement.
The amount provided by the Civil List has stayed unchanged for 20 years. It is now worth a quarter of what it was.
In May Labour MP Ian Davidson said that in the current economic climate raising the amount paid to the Queen by the taxpayer would be "inappropriate".
Delivering his first Budget statement to the House of Commons, Mr Osborne said: "The amount provided by the Civil List has remained unchanged over the last 20 years at £7.9m.
"This has required careful management. Because of inflation, the annual payment is today worth only a quarter of what it was 20 years ago.
Peter Hunt, Royal Correspondent
This government's solution to the challenge of funding the monarchy comes in two parts.
First, the Civil List will be frozen, but not cut. Palace officials argue the money given for head of state expenditure hasn't increased for 20 years.
Then, in 2012, the system will be simplified. The Queen will get one pot of cash, rather than separate grants for travel and the upkeep of palaces. The timing isn't a coincidence. Any pay rise will be announced as she celebrates 60 years on the throne.
In the past, royals and requests for more money have proved a toxic mix. Prince Philip told reporters in the '60s, the royals were going into the red and might have to move into smaller premises. Five decades on, the Queen's husband will remain silent on this potentially vexed issue.
"I can announce that with the full agreement of the Queen, the Civil List will remain frozen at £7.9m for the coming year and I will propose a new means of consolidated support for her Majesty for the future at a later date."
He added that the royal households have agreed that in future, Civil List spending will come under the same audit scrutiny as other government expenditure through the National Audit Office and the Commons Public Accounts Committee.
The Civil List pays for staff costs and running expenses of the Queen's household and is set every 10 years. A revised figure was due this year.
In May Mr Davidson said it would be "inappropriate" to pay "vast sums of additional money" to the royal household in the current climate.
He said: "These are difficult economic times. The government's said we're all in this together and I think it would be inappropriate in these circumstances for the Queen to be handed vast sums of additional money."
His comments came after the Queen was reported to ask for an increase in funding.
About 70% of the funding is used to pay staff salaries. The money is also used to help fund official functions such as garden parties, receptions and entertainment during state visits. |  |  |  |  |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10379748.stm
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belchingmatt
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Too good to scrub her own toilet is she?
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koli
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That is exactly what I think people should take from this budget. The country has been living beyond its means for years and now we are gonna pay, with interest. Labour has screwed us over with "no boom-bust economy" bull****. They were moaning at people being in debt but they have done exactly the same thing, borrowing money and burning it at a furious pace. Well folks, the feast is over, get ready for years of pain. All these morons who voted labour will see consequence of it, just a shame that normal people will suffer with them.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:55 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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you might need to wait more than a month before you can make a judgement on wether the coalition is doing a brilliant job or not. 
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:13 pm |
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adidan
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Lol, it wasn't purely down to Labour, there's a lot more to it than that. 
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:16 pm |
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pcernie
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:20 pm |
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adidan
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Well that's stupid, they're just going to up sticks.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:23 pm |
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Amnesia10
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If they had stuck with the original aim of taxing capital gains at the same rates as income I would have said that they did well. Then it would have been a good broad budget. The crisis was caused by asset bubbles funded by excessive credit created by banks. Failure to tax those gains only compounds the problems. They are desperate for a return to the asset bubbles. What will happen is that without credit growth these assets will struggle to hold their value. Individuals are over extended with debts so unless their incomes rise they will find it hard to maintain debt repayments, gradually they will fail and the banks will have to take losses, which will reduce the income the government expect from bank taxes. They could make losses again. Japan had 20 years of stagnation while trying to sustain that bubble. That could happen here but we may not have the benefits of being able to trade our way through the crisis like the Japanese. All our major trading partners are going into austerity programs and the government may have learnt the wrong lesson from the Canadian austerity program.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:14 pm |
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Amnesia10
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And do you think Cameron does that in Number 10? 
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:48 pm |
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ProfessorF
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According to Sky's handy-dandy budget calculator, I'm about £100 better off. Nice. Not that I'll notice it, I suspect.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:01 pm |
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Nick
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That's a nice little app Sky have on their site. It reckons I will be £126 better off, but some of it was rough estimations - alcohol consumption for example, which varies wildly throughout the day/week/month/year. But, I will pay less in income tax, and less in car tax this year which is good for me. 
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:11 pm |
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paulzolo
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I''m sorry, but I can't take any of this "we're all in this together" crap that is being spouted by the well-privileged toffs who are running the country. They could happily live without needing to work, so any measures they take do not affect them as much as it affects the majority of the population.
The Lib Dems have conveniently forgotten their "VAT Tax Bombshell" posters that they were so proud of during the election.
Regardless of the situation and the rights and wrongs of it, the language coming out of Downing Street is patronising, hollow and two-faced.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:29 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I have to agree, look at the graph of where the pain is  Not very tough on the super rich.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:44 pm |
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Nick
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Well the super rich aren't included on that graph...
But yes, it cleary shows that the poorest are being hit hard.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:46 pm |
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Nick
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The BBC reckon I will be £276 better off. 
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