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It seems a bit too drawn out, like they're padding it out so it'll stretch over the agreed number of episodes. I don't find Rex a believeable character, I'm not sure why, it just doesn't work for me. Oh, and that camp director, the guy who shot and burnt Dr Greatlegs, is a joke; as is his soldier/aide - both of them are wholly unbelieveable.

It's not really Torchwood anymore, it's just a generic action-drama with an occasional sci-fi gadget; and it's a struggling one too.


I have to agree - I am just hopeful that it will all come together soon

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It seems a bit too drawn out, like they're padding it out so it'll stretch over the agreed number of episodes. I don't find Rex a believeable character, I'm not sure why, it just doesn't work for me. Oh, and that camp director, the guy who shot and burnt Dr Greatlegs, is a joke; as is his soldier/aide - both of them are wholly unbelieveable.

It's not really Torchwood anymore, it's just a generic action-drama with an occasional sci-fi gadget; and it's a struggling one too.


I have to agree - I am just hopeful that it will all come together soon

I disagree. Ok its not Children of Earth but I am enjoying it, Its different from the previous series in that yes its more drawn out but its a longer series, more chance of a story arc to be developed.
The way they have people acting differently because you can no longer "die" and its impact on society. Government sanction death camps. People saying its just their job. All great and a nice warning about how people can fit into a situation that normally people would be arguing about how they would never allow that sort of thing to happen.
The doctor (more of a bureaucrat than actual doctor) and the soldier aide I think were just right. Normal people in an impossible situation that's beyond them and the doctor cracking under the stress and strain, whilst the soldier (national guard/reservist type?) just doesnt know what to do or what he is supposed to do.

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Oh, and that camp director, the guy who shot and burnt Dr Greatlegs, is a joke; as is his soldier/aide - both of them are wholly unbelieveable.


Agreed. Totally awful. The soldier seemed to be about 15 years old sometimes.

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we're left with the simpering, overly-vulnerable, blonde bimbette.


She's lovely...but yes, a bit wishy washy.

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Spreadie wrote:
It seems a bit too drawn out, like they're padding it out so it'll stretch over the agreed number of episodes. I don't find Rex a believeable character, I'm not sure why, it just doesn't work for me. Oh, and that camp director, the guy who shot and burnt Dr Greatlegs, is a joke; as is his soldier/aide - both of them are wholly unbelieveable.

It's not really Torchwood anymore, it's just a generic action-drama with an occasional sci-fi gadget; and it's a struggling one too.


I have to agree - I am just hopeful that it will all come together soon

I disagree. Ok its not Children of Earth but I am enjoying it, Its different from the previous series in that yes its more drawn out but its a longer series, more chance of a story arc to be developed.
The way they have people acting differently because you can no longer "die" and its impact on society. Government sanction death camps. People saying its just their job. All great and a nice warning about how people can fit into a situation that normally people would be arguing about how they would never allow that sort of thing to happen.


This is all by the numbers stuff though. There is nothing new being brought to the scenario that hasn’t been done before. I’m waiting for the twist - so far, there’s been no hint of it.

I hate to say it, but it’s getting painful to watch. I feel I’m watching a checklist of apocalyptic clichés being trotted out. Maybe RTD has run out of ideas. If he hopes to make it big in the USA, then this is clearly a textbook method of how not to do it.

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Just caught up with this.

I thought the "nice family butcher" scenes were incredibly powerful. Although predictable with the power of hind-sight, I'd never really considered what would happen if he was "found out" but the expression "devil" certainly came to me before his "companion" used it. Jack seemed wistfully envious of the Doctor, but he's clearly never going to live a pre-watershed lifestyle. More blood and lust in that episode than 50 years of WHO.

I'm pleased to say once again I'm looking forward to the next episode.

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Well, I have just ended up watching the entire series on iPlayer in the last week, and despite all the problems people seemed to have with it on here, I hugely enjoyed it, and there was no episode where it didn't grab me. (I would also point out I have never seen torchwood before this series). I really liked the way it started talking about certain issues and philosophical questions. I wouldn't exactly describe it as first rate TV, but that certainly didn't get in the way of my enjoying it. I also don't see what is wrong with something being 'too american'.

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I enjoyed the series too. It certainly had its share of gruesome moments but overall I thought it was good.

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I enjoyed the series too. It certainly had its share of gruesome moments but overall I thought it was good.


I, for one, am glad it’s over. For me, it was a definite drop in quality. Torchwood was quirky, eccentric, entertaining and thoughtful. It]s become a standard issue US TV drama.

Meanwhile, the BBC, flexing its imagination, is pumping out YET ANOTHER police drama.

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I hugely enjoyed it, and there was no episode where it didn't grab me. (I would also point out I have never seen torchwood before this series).


And there it is. You might as well be a US citizen ;)

What a pile of [LIFTED]. I've just finished yesterday. Was so not bothered, that I left the last two eps for several weeks. The guy playing Rex was great in Lie to Me and I enjoyed the character. Aside from that, they retconned Jack, and destroyed every semblance of Torchwood.

Then I got to thinking about it, and I remember that actually season 1 & 2 were where it was at. Nothing wrong with character deaths, but lets do a Spooks shall we, and replace the poor [LIFTED]. Captain John was under-utilised and Jack's background as a time agent has barely been explored. And what happened to the 21st century being "where everything changes"?? They should've said it's "where everything gets ruined by the yanks from hollywood, to TV, to global politics."

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lumbthelesser wrote:
I hugely enjoyed it, and there was no episode where it didn't grab me. (I would also point out I have never seen torchwood before this series).


And there it is. You might as well be a US citizen ;)

What a pile of [LIFTED]. I've just finished yesterday. Was so not bothered, that I left the last two eps for several weeks. The guy playing Rex was great in Lie to Me and I enjoyed the character. Aside from that, they retconned Jack, and destroyed every semblance of Torchwood.

Then I got to thinking about it, and I remember that actually season 1 & 2 were where it was at. Nothing wrong with character deaths, but lets do a Spooks shall we, and replace the poor [LIFTED]. Captain John was under-utilised and Jack's background as a time agent has barely been explored. And what happened to the 21st century being "where everything changes"?? They should've said it's "where everything gets ruined by the yanks from hollywood, to TV, to global politics."

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What he said. Torchwood is dead to me now.

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lumbthelesser wrote:
I hugely enjoyed it, and there was no episode where it didn't grab me. (I would also point out I have never seen torchwood before this series).


And there it is. You might as well be a US citizen ;)

Given that I can be grabbed by and thoroughly enjoy a 90 minute symphony and don't think that Palin is a completely rational human being, I am not sure that sentence points to aptitude to being American ;-)

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I hugely enjoyed it, and there was no episode where it didn't grab me. (I would also point out I have never seen torchwood before this series).


And there it is. You might as well be a US citizen ;)

Given that I can be grabbed by and thoroughly enjoy a 90 minute symphony and don't think that Palin is a completely rational human being, I am not sure that sentence points to aptitude to being American ;-)


You could say the same for Jed Bartlett, and he's very American. He definitely wouldn't have watched this season of Torchwood.


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lumbthelesser wrote:
Given that I can be grabbed by and thoroughly enjoy a 90 minute symphony and don't think that Palin is a completely rational human being, I am not sure that sentence points to aptitude to being American ;-)


You could say the same for Jed Bartlett, and he's very American. He definitely wouldn't have watched this season of Torchwood.

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