You're assuming Jeremy Hunt thinks.

Also, hands up who gives a flying one which way Boris Johnson is going to vote? The press seem utterly obsessed with this little fact, but the soon to be ex London Mayor has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to 90%+ of the people who are going to be voting in the referendum. At best his opinion is of interest to people who are either tory party members or regularly vote tory, but even then 75% ish of the country don't come under that banner. It's just the worst example of the press thinking the westminster village is the be-all and end-all.

He's in good company - Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and George Galloway.

I think i'm heading for the staying in camp,partly because I don't think it has really harmed us being in.I don't believe that our security is harmed by the EU.The situation we find ourselves in at the moment is due to monumental cock ups caused by this and the previous government.
I also don't believe that the immigration argument holds much water either. The fears that have been expressed have, imo, been reminiscent of Enoch Powells "Rivers of Blood speech. I do think some control of immigration would be beneficial but I also think that as we as a country have caused the problems we have an obligation to help those people whose lives we have totally fcuked up.

yours wecrookie

I've been pleasantly surprised by Gove as justice secretary but yes, otherwise it's a cavalcade of most of UK politic's biggest knobheads.

If IDS wants us to leave it won't be good news for common British people


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The DUP are the only major party over here wanting out so far, the Ulster Unionists as ever are trying to read the public mood and then pretend they stand for something. Anything.

The general mood amongst city dwellers is out IME, but I doubt that transfers to the sticks, and EU funding is our bread and butter over here. Think we'll vote to stay.

David Cameron ridicules Boris Johnson's second EU referendum idea | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... endum-idea

I find it hard to believe anything from those two, including this supposed rivalry.

My instinct is pro-Brexit (and it’s nothing to do with Boris) | Suzanne Moore | Opinion | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... nti-europe

She's not wrong, the EU doesn't need reform in the form of the distractions Dave delivered, it needs it's grey areas to be black and white (it's budget, human rights legislation, further integration). All of it is widely open to interpretation and pure fear.

Cameron’s deal is a chance to make the EU work. Seize it | Peter Mandelson | Opinion | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -mandelson



What Cameron negotiated were things of almost zero consequence or meaning in reality, which is why the other countries went for it! 'Ever closer union?' Even if the EU tried to force that issue it would FAIL hard. EU migrant benefits? As hype overinflated as our own benefits bill, the sort of money politicians let companies away with on a monthly basis.



Er, you suggested it yourself many times

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2827149.stm

Mandelson wouldn't recognise the truth if you hit him in the face with a cricket bat with 'the truth' stencilled on it.

more like the other way round its the illegals/"migrants" terrorising europe, have you not seen any of the footage of them destroying everywhere they go? and the raping, funny how people on here say they are proud to be british etc etc yet appears to be all for this horrible migration thing, what will happen when these illegals breed like crazy with multiple wives in england for example, and with fertility rate so low in europe etc soon there will be no such thing as english but rather islamic arabs who had utterly dominated and overrun all europe states, and thats not my opinion thats interviews and rantings I saw of these "poor" "syrian" "refugees" from their own mouths

Mark

I voted in but would object to being classed as left

The cartoon is amusing but not really accurate. It seems to me quite a lot of the UK establishment is very much in the 'in' camp - lots of big businesses, Cameron & Osborne for example. The 'out' faction seems to have more of the anti-establishment figures like Galloway. And at least in Cameron's case he's being entirely consistent - he wanted Scotland to stay in the UK, and he wants the UK to stay in Europe.

I the country does vote for out, I hope people Farage is there front and centre sorting out all the issues that arise. Unfortunately, I expect he’ll scuttle away to a pub somewhere to hide and claim that it’s nothing to do with him.

I think that’s the problem - the people who want out do so because of some reactionary notion that ”better out than in”. That may apply to farts and pus, but as so far they have made no real case for what it will really be like out of the EU. And I mean REALLY like. Not some imagined notion of “no foreigners allowed in, saving €xx m a day” - the real impact of leaving. We know little about the impact on businesses, health care, education. Energy suppliers - most are foreign (including some based in the EuroZone). Transport. Fuel costs. Jobs. Just what will we have to dismantle in order to leave? Just what will be have to build in order to leave?

These are massive questions - and there have been no concrete answers from anyone, and given that UKIP have been banging on about this for well over a decade, you would think that they’d have a plan and be willing to talk about it. Yet, whenever Farage or his minions appear on screen, they say nothing. They just trot out their media friendly quotes that please the Daily Mail editors.