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Religion.

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Religion.

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Thats rather a random statement

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The Roman Catholic Church has ordered a wholesale review of child protection across the South West of England after the official in charge of investigating sexual abuse allegations was convicted of internet paedophile offences, The Times has learnt.

They have no authority to investigate anything, they're fools, in an evil establishment. Whether it's consciously evil is irrelevent, it allows evil to thrive. If it was truly God's world, he wouldn't allow this. But he's an imaginary delusion, so it thrives.

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That was way beneath two different buttons to place your order - IIRC the EUC are proposing to limit that sh1t...

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The Roman Catholic Church has ordered a wholesale review of child protection across the South West of England after the official in charge of investigating sexual abuse allegations was convicted of internet paedophile offences, The Times has learnt.

They have no authority to investigate anything, they're fools, in an evil establishment. Whether it's consciously evil is irrelevent, it allows evil to thrive. If it was truly God's world, he wouldn't allow this. But he's an imaginary delusion, so it thrives.

If you're offended then you're offended by the truth.


I'm not offended by it, but I question your logic. Surely the same thing can be said about any organisation where such behaviour occurs. Like schools, football training clubs - anything involving young people.
What's happened is your nasty predatory person with an interest in kiddy fiddling has gravitated towards an organisation where they can be around children.
Happens frequently. If you have an urge, you'll seek ways to fulfil it.

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The Roman Catholic Church has ordered a wholesale review of child protection across the South West of England after the official in charge of investigating sexual abuse allegations was convicted of internet paedophile offences, The Times has learnt.

They have no authority to investigate anything, they're fools, in an evil establishment. Whether it's consciously evil is irrelevent, it allows evil to thrive. If it was truly God's world, he wouldn't allow this. But he's an imaginary delusion, so it thrives.

If you're offended then you're offended by the truth.


I'm not offended by it, but I question your logic. Surely the same thing can be said about any organisation where such behaviour occurs. Like schools, football training clubs - anything involving young people.
What's happened is your nasty predatory person with an interest in kiddy fiddling has gravitated towards an organisation where they can be around children.
Happens frequently. If you have an urge, you'll seek ways to fulfil it.

Nope totally wrong.

Imagine if this was a Scientology group of schools. Of course there are complete bastards in any social group, however if the Scientology Schools started to become attractive to paedophiles, would we allow them to send in a crack squad of high-level Thetan-Warriors to go and sort it out? No it would be the police, they would shut it down.. What if it was found that the Scientology Schools were trying to protect the paedophiles? What if the guy in charge of STOPPING the abuse, actually really ENJOYED IT.

Ostensibly evil isn't it? Would people still send their kids there? How would you look upon those parents?

If it happens in a normal school, the teacher ends up in prison, no one is on his side, he isn't "looked after" by the other teachers. A paedophile soccer instructor, same thing.

The difference is that Catholicism has got many years on Scientology. It has had longer to evolve, it's illusion of profundity is more sophisticated, its defence mechanisms more nuanced and deep-seated. It provides a strong framework of arbitrary authority and unquestionable laws that help protect paedophiles during decades of systematic abuse. That surely couldn't and doesn't happen, to the same extent, in the usual local secondary school.

Imagine the head of the UK school system helping to abuse kids and you immediately see the difference, the "special place" that religion has. Well it's nonsense, it's junk information, useless [LIFTED], and they won't get their hands on any of my kids.

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True, the cops should be involved and appropriate measures taken accordingly.
I was unaware they weren't, tbh.

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I suppose for the worst cases they end up in court eventually, but sometimes it's after the kids have grown up. But it's not just physical abuse, it's emotional abuse that a religious upbringing can deal to a child, the Irish Catholic girls taught (in some places to this day) that they're sinful sluts who should be ashamed of their sexuality. It all leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.

My own C of E education was a harrowing ordeal of mild guitar songs and awkward dance moves, with a cool Whit Sunday walk with a brass band every now and again. So I'm not saying it's ubiquitous in religion, but it's there!


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We have Catholic friends, who've raised questions of scripture with their priest, only to be told point blank that they ask too many questions, and should just accept the Church's teachings.
In fact, one family's daughter was attempting to do research at the Vatican. I suspect that because she's a woman, they weren't terribly helpful.
She now attends a CofE type affair.

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We have Catholic friends, who've raised questions of scripture with their priest, only to be told point blank that they ask too many questions, and should just accept the Church's teachings.

The prefect way to shake somebody's faith. If you can't challange it and anwser the questions, then that will raise even more questions about it's validity.
To me it's fine for people to have faith in a god, but having faith in a church is just silly. It's a man made organisation and therefor subject to mankinds falibility.

Hmmmm... I just described the film Dogma.

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We have Catholic friends, who've raised questions of scripture with their priest, only to be told point blank that they ask too many questions, and should just accept the Church's teachings.

The prefect way to shake somebody's faith. If you can't challange it and anwser the questions, then that will raise even more questions about it's validity.

Exactly right.

I know many priests that are morbidly afeared of saying "I don't know." They see the baring of their unknowing as a direct challenge to their rank. The unfortunate irony is that the acknowledging of unknowing and invitation of questions actually serves to reinforce eldership.

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To me it's fine for people to have faith in a god, but having faith in a church is just silly. It's a man made organisation and therefor subject to mankinds falibility.

Bingo!

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My own C of E education was a harrowing ordeal of mild guitar songs and awkward dance moves, with a cool Whit Sunday walk with a brass band every now and again. So I'm not saying it's ubiquitous in religion, but it's there!

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You're doing it again Rusty ;)

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You're doing it again Rusty ;)

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