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Err, the XOOM does not come with Flash.


Sure it is promised for later, but it could be months away.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/21/moto ... uary-24th/

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Err, the XOOM does not come with Flash.


Sure it is promised for later, but it could be months away.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/21/moto ... uary-24th/

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Err, wrong.
European Xoom will have Flash at launch in the first week of April

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ChurchCat wrote:
Err, the XOOM does not come with Flash.


Sure it is promised for later, but it could be months away.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/21/moto ... uary-24th/

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Err, wrong.
European Xoom will have Flash at launch in the first week of April

Care to make a bet about that?


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Care to make a bet about that?

Maybe. What do you want to bet? I don't think you can offer me anything that I want.

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Maybe. What do you want to bet? I don't think you can offer me anything that I want.

*shrug* there's no accounting for taste.

I'm obviously more sceptical than you. I base my opinion on them saying it would be cheaper than the iPad (it isn't) and that it'd have Flash at launch (it hasn't) so I'm taking any further claims they make about what it may or may not have in the future with a pinch of salt. If it does have Flash at EU launch well, well done to them. But given their track record I don't think we can take is as gospel that they'll hit their targets.

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Brilliant! :lol:

iPad 2 has Samsung fixated on "inadequate" aspects of new Galaxy Tab

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/201 ... ipad-2.ars


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But given their track record I don't think we can take is as gospel that they'll hit their targets.

Both CPW and PCworld have ability to play flash on their Xoom features lists so they must be pretty confident.

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Both CPW and PCworld have ability to play flash on their Xoom features lists so they must be pretty confident.


I would counter that means nothing. Anyone can cut and paste from a features list, even if it turns out to be wrong. You ought to see some of the rubbish they stick under Macs! :lol:

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Brilliant! :lol:

iPad 2 has Samsung fixated on "inadequate" aspects of new Galaxy Tab

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/201 ... ipad-2.ars


Funny thing is, Jobs was fixated on the competition at the iPad 2 launch in a slightly 'doth protest too much' way :)

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I saw my first iPad last night. I don't think I've really fully appreciated the retina screen before as the visible pixels really put me off. A retina display that size though would be hugely expensive.

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Funny thing is, Jobs was fixated on the competition at the iPad 2 launch in a slightly 'doth protest too much' way :)

It's something they never did when they were just a Mac business but they do seem to do it a lot with their iPhone/iPad stuff. The original iPhone launch conference could basically be summed up as "everyone else's phones are [LIFTED], here's ours that isn't."

Having said that, he only really talked about the competition at the beginning of the iPad 2 announcement, once they actually brought the thing out they pretty much kept it the focus of attention. Any advertising exec would tell you it's best to talk down the competition then talk up your offering, rather than vice versa or mixing the two together.

And also, you have to say, the marketing on the Galaxy Tab and Xoom so far has been basically 'Our tablet is better than the iPad because...'

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And also, you have to say, the marketing on the Galaxy Tab and Xoom so far has been basically 'Our tablet is better than the iPad because...'

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As second to market they have to differentiate from the market leader (iPad), the media will concentrate on what makes it better or worse (depending on their own views and bias) and the public will have the idea that the iPad is the best or only tablet on the market.
But saying that it will be iPad3 time before I would seriously think of getting one (Apple or other manufacturer), for once I will not give into gadget lust... then again I said that about the iphone and my wife left me alone for 10 minutes outside the o2 shop :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Funny thing is, Jobs was fixated on the competition at the iPad 2 launch in a slightly 'doth protest too much' way :)

I understand that he has to defend his products but the way he does it is ridiculous. He dismissed Android phones and now they outsell iphones. Now he is laughing off android tablets and it will leave him with an egg on his face again.
He reminds me of Comical Ali:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMqU8vE65g8

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pcernie wrote:
Funny thing is, Jobs was fixated on the competition at the iPad 2 launch in a slightly 'doth protest too much' way :)

I understand that he has to defend his products but the way he does it is ridiculous. He dismissed Android phones and now they outsell iphones. Now he is laughing off android tablets and it will leave him with an egg on his face again.
He reminds me of Comical Ali:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMqU8vE65g8


Egg?

I don't think Steve ever said that Android will never be popular. I could be wrong. Got a quote in mind?

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I don't think Steve ever said that Android will never be popular. I could be wrong. Got a quote in mind?

I don't have a direct quote, I don't follow what he says that closely but I know how he can go on and on about one negative aspect of android OS saying how much better iphone is. I remember him pointing how very few apps android has and how fragmented the platform is. Same with flash inefficiencies, 7" tablets, "only 100 apps for android tablets" rubbish...

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