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Author:  jonlumb [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:48 pm ]
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Conversation at work that ended up in slightly weird territory:

If you pay to have sex with a hooker, then steal the money afterwards, is it classed as rape? Bearing in mind that the consent was only provided on the basis of the payment.
Author:  timark_uk [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:49 pm ]
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Consent to sex is consent to sex. What you've done is theft, because the money was theirs before you stole it back, otherwise you couldn't have stolen it.

Mark
Author:  ProfessorF [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:50 pm ]
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I think it's just theft.
Technically, she was a willing partner to the act (motivated by money, regardless) so I don't think it's classed as rape.
You, sir, are therefore still a scum bag for stealing her hard earned.
Interestingly, I'm not certain it's at all illegal to give a woman money for receiving sex, if that's your agreement.

Hypothetically.
Author:  Nick [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:55 pm ]
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So in that case - can you give consent on a condition?

So - yes I'll have sex with you, but only if you are actually as good looking as Megan Fox and it's not just the beer goggles? If she then tells you she is as good looking as Megan, but then you realise she's a munter in the morning can you get her done for rape?
Author:  pcernie [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:01 pm ]
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A serious hypothetical question


In here? Are you mad? :shock:
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:12 pm ]
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jonlumb wrote:
Conversation at work that ended up in slightly weird territory:

If you pay to have sex with a hooker, then steal the money afterwards, is it classed as rape? Bearing in mind that the consent was only provided on the basis of the payment.

No it would probably be theft, but then everyone would know that you had been with a prostitute and robbed her.
Author:  timark_uk [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:17 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
but then everyone would know that you had been with a prostitute and robbed her.
How?

Mark
Author:  jonbwfc [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:37 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
but then everyone would know that you had been with a prostitute and robbed her.

Well, come on, we've all played Grand Theft Auto, right?

Yep, it's theft. If you didn't pay her, it would be fraud. I don't think anyone would consider it a good thing if someone could withdraw consent retrospectively and claim rape due to that.

Jon
Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:11 pm ]
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timark_uk wrote:
Consent to sex is consent to sex. What you'veo done is theft, because the money was theirs before you stole it back, otherwise you couldn't have stolen it.

Mark

+1 on that definition.
The sex wad consensual, therefore not rape.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:09 pm ]
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timark_uk wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
but then everyone would know that you had been with a prostitute and robbed her.
How?

Mark

When it goes to court. HM vs Timark in the case of robbing a prostitute. :P
Author:  PaulKey [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:13 pm ]
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Theft / robbery.

Not quite sure what the difference is between the two but certainly not rape.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:14 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
but then everyone would know that you had been with a prostitute and robbed her.

Well, come on, we've all played Grand Theft Auto, right?

Yep, it's theft. If you didn't pay her, it would be fraud. I don't think anyone would consider it a good thing if someone could withdraw consent retrospectively and claim rape due to that.

Jon

I haven't played it! :P
Author:  EddArmitage [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:18 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
timark_uk wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
but then everyone would know that you had been with a prostitute and robbed her.
How?

When it goes to court. HM vs Timark in the case of robbing a prostitute. :P

Who said you'd get court? Bah! n00bs get caught! /notseriouspleasedontsueordumpmedependingonwhoreadsthiskthnxbai

Now, where the hell is Bratty when you need him???
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:14 pm ]
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EddArmitage wrote:
Now, where the hell is Bratty when you need him???

Do you think that we need something like a bat signal? ;)
Author:  belchingmatt [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:16 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
but then everyone would know that you had been with a prostitute and robbed her.

Well, come on, we've all played Grand Theft Auto, right?

Yep, it's theft. If you didn't pay her, it would be fraud. I don't think anyone would consider it a good thing if someone could withdraw consent retrospectively and claim rape due to that.

Jon


I think with GTA it would include murder as well. :D
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