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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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PDF link: http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris ... _06_18.pdfAnd here's the gist of it if you can't be arsed with that  : http://blogs.zdnet.com/home-theater/?p=1075There's so little on TV I can't justify buying an HD one 
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:15 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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I expect it's got a lot to do with the fact that HD-DVDs and related players are being sold for peanuts. There aren't any new releases for the format, so give it a few years and Blu-ray will far outstrip HD-DVD. Special congratulations go to Microsoft for backing the wrong format. 
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:00 pm |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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MS only gave it a half arsed attempt tbh, they have always been more about digital download support No built in support, required an external player (which works in vista/win7 so bonus there) Bonus now is that I can stock up my film collection for £2 a pop! Got all 3 harry potter films and all 3 bourne films for £12 from gamestation the other week, it's a challenge to find 1 blu ray for that price when the player dies, get a £50 multi player blu ray/hdd for my pc then rip them in 1080p to my hard drive, simples
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:11 pm |
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pcernie
Legend
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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It's not saying much for standalone BR players no matter what though, and considering the amount of HD TVs and PS3s being sold you'd have thought sales of discs would be looking better these days - mind you, recession and all that, not to mention Joe Average had no idea there was a 'war' in the first place 
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:13 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Therein lies the problem I think. I love my Blu-ray films, especially for films with good special effects etc (I shall be buying Star Trek XI on Blu-ray on the day of release, cost be damned). However, I can appreciate the difference between Blu-ray and DVD, my mum however, doesn't have a clue (and thus has no interest in Blu-ray). More marketing is needed (like when they had those adverts which said something along the lines of "OMG!! DVD IS A BAZILLION TIMES BETTER THAN VHS!!!!!11111111one11111).
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:21 pm |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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Given 95% of people who have HD TVs don't have them set up properly (out of the box is not correctly set up) and probably have no idea how to correctly configure them the difference between a Blu ray and a well upscaled DVD is pretty slim, certainly not enough to warrant the additional cost for many
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:46 pm |
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Angelic
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:16 pm Posts: 704 Location: Leeds, UK
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Hmm... how is "correctly set up"? Out of the box mine seemed to be perfectly fine, and the difference between upscaled DVD (from an upscaling DVD player) and a HD-DVD (From the 360 HDDVD drive) was astonishing. Just curious, as if an even BETTER picture is available then i'd love it!
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Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:22 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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I spent ages fiddling with my CRT telly when I bought it about 10 years ago. A friend had the engineering manual, and we adjusted the colours, geometry, who know what else. I got a far better picture from it.
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Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:57 am |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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Correctly set up is setting the contrast/brightness/sharpness etc to the proper values I spent 10 minutes getting the setup right for regular TV and for my 360 and the difference is well worth it, out of the box the text on HDMI when downscaled (yes downscaled) from 1080p to native res was distorted and blurred http://gizmodo.com/5098917/how-to-calib ... -your-mindhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/07/29/hd ... irt-cheap/Also you can bing HDTV calibration picture and get some really good high res images you can pop onto a laptop and use to help set it up properly I paid £240 for my TV and given the difference in quality (purely on the image) after setting it up I would probably pay around twice as much if it was that quality to start (only downside is the speakers hum a bit when it's quiet.....but using an amp + mute will fix that I hope)
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Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:43 am |
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saspro
Site Admin
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm Posts: 8603 Location: location, location
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I set my TV up using the THX setup disk.
You can find similar at the beginning of the star wars dvds.
I've got loads of HD-DVDs but not many blurays. Mainly down to the fact I can get 10-20 HD-DVD's for every bluray
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Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:54 am |
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