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Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:20 am ]
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what would you do if this happened to your daughter ...
after the 'so called' sentence

i would do some thing very very criminal
then hand myself in to the police and be sentenced to a long term in prison
(which i, myself, would regard as another 'tour of duty')

knowing that what i had done (personally) was some type of justice

what would you do ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... stice.html

(warning - there are 'quote' marks and lots of dots) ...

Author:  adidan [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:46 am ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
what would you do if this happened to your daughter ...after the 'so called' sentence

No doubt the same as you. I would like to think I wouldn't but when the Justice system fails what else is left?

Quote:
'Merseyside was the first CPS area to develop the Early Guilty Plea scheme, which ... reduces expense to the public purse whilst also achieving swift justice.'

'Swift justice'. That just means cost cutting and rushing cases through. Speed should have no relevance, it's like a 'swift meal' - sure a McDonalds will fill you, and you will get it quickly and cheaply, but it's in no way the same thing as having a three course meal at a top end restaurant.

I hope the media attention on the lack of justice will help the appeal.

Author:  AlunD [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:47 am ]
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Not sure what I would do but it would require I spent a considerable amount of time in prison afterwards, that's for sure.

Author:  rustybucket [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:07 am ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
what would you do if this happened to your daughter ...
after the 'so called' sentence

Make a cup of tea.

I always think better after a cup of tea

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:17 am ]
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rustybucket wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
what would you do if this happened to your daughter ...
after the 'so called' sentence

Make a cup of tea.

I always think better after a cup of tea


none, one or two sugars ? ...

Author:  rustybucket [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: if this happened ...

MrStevenRogers wrote:
rustybucket wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
what would you do if this happened to your daughter ...
after the 'so called' sentence

Make a cup of tea.

I always think better after a cup of tea


none, one or two sugars ? ...

None.

I'm sweet enough. ;)

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: if this happened ...

i thought so ...

Author:  davrosG5 [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:35 am ]
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Reading the article, one thing does strike me.
The family of the victim weren't told that there was a 28 time limit in which to lodge an appeal against the frankly rubbish decision of the court.
So, assuming they were told the decision within a day of it being made they decided to sit about of a month without lodging an appeal? Surely the appeal should have been made within about 2 minutes of the judgement being handed down.

Still, a terrible, terrible thing. I do find it unusual that the victim wants to move to the USA to escape this sort of thing. [massive sweeping generalisation]It wouldn't be a brick through the car window, it would be a bullet.[/massive sweeping generalisation]

Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:35 am ]
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AlunD wrote:
Not sure what I would do but it would require I spent a considerable amount of time in prison afterwards, that's for sure.

+1.

Things that come to mind include chopping his hands off, and tit-for-tat, a brick in his face. Maybe a concrete breeze block or something.

Author:  Paul1965 [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:22 am ]
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Perhaps break every bone in his body. Set him on fire? Not enough to kill him though.

And stop his benefits.

Author:  ShockWaffle [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:09 pm ]
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I'd have lodged the appeal, and I'd make sure everyone in the neighbourhood understood the risk he posed and kept an eye on him. I might even punch him in the nose. I'd possibly even get round to asking him if he felt bad about what he'd done, and maybe try to understand what could drive a 14 year old to do such a terrible thing. I'm one of those people that sometimes considers the alternatives to old testament vengeance; one of those things is to understand how tragedies occur and work to prevent their recurrence.

I would also be impressed by the young woman's resolve to get on with her life without bitterness, and consider not inflicting further tragedy on her by having one of her parents consigned to prison for a lengthy stretch.

Author:  soddit112 [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:22 pm ]
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make it look like an accident :)

Author:  Nick [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:53 pm ]
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ShockWaffle wrote:
I'd have lodged the appeal, and I'd make sure everyone in the neighbourhood understood the risk he posed and kept an eye on him. I might even punch him in the nose. I'd possibly even get round to asking him if he felt bad about what he'd done, and maybe try to understand what could drive a 14 year old to do such a terrible thing. I'm one of those people that sometimes considers the alternatives to old testament vengeance; one of those things is to understand how tragedies occur and work to prevent their recurrence.

I would also be impressed by the young woman's resolve to get on with her life without bitterness, and consider not inflicting further tragedy on her by having one of her parents consigned to prison for a lengthy stretch.


Well said.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: if this happened ...

My sister was about 15 when someone broke a bottle in her face.
What did we do?
Called the Police and thanked our lucky stars that the glass hit her in the face and not her throat.

Bad things happen all the time. IIRC, the thug that bottled my sister didn't even get a £200 fine. But then we didn't take the story to the papers because we're not into cynically manipulating our misfortunes for financial gain.
And I'm sorry, I don't think for a second that anything in the Mail counts as well researched, and often down right fabricated - http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/true-story-of-daily-mail-lies-guest.html

Author:  leeds_manc [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:55 pm ]
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I don't want to imagine anything horrible happening to my family, and I especially don't want to read anything that's printed in the Daily Mail as I consider it's aimed at people very, very far below my intelligence level. :mrgreen:

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