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| Zippy wrote: I always thought Ms was used by divorcees | |
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I was always under the impression it was used by she's who used to be he's...At least that's why one of the teachers used it...
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| Author: | pcernie [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16503341 Bleeding heck... It always sounded quite charming to me that sort of thing. |
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| Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
I saw that in the news recently too. Come to think of it, a lot of female patients in the last few days have had Ms. in front of their name. |
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| Author: | Zippy [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
I don't understand the big deal? I was married and I was Mrs, now I'm divorced and use Miss, what's the big deal? Does admitting to being married or single give people a weapon to use against you? I always thought Ms was used by divorcees, but I never understood the point. What does it matter if people know whether or not you're married? Are you more likely to be raped or abducted if you admit to being a Miss? Is it just because Master has gone out of use for boys and young men? Sometimes I think the feminists are fighting entirely the wrong battles! |
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| Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
I think master should be reintroducted. I used to love being called it when I used to go to the bank. |
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| Author: | TheFrenchun [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
France is a completly different country than the UK. One of the main reasons that I moved is that it is incredibly difficult for a young woman to get a job in France. They are seen as liabilities as they are likely to take time off to have children. On women's condition, France hasnt really evolved since the 50s. Women are still expected to cook and clean on their own. Men don't go anywhere near an Iron or a saucepan. in the workplace, a woman is always seen as someone's assistant and calling her a patronising "mademoiselle" reinforces this fact. I am lucky to have a androgenous first name and I sign all correspondance without a title, which when working with French compagnies help get answers a lot faster. |
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| Author: | forquare1 [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:07 pm ] | |||||||||
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I was always under the impression it was used by she's who used to be he's...At least that's why one of the teachers used it... |
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| Author: | big_D [ Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
Germany stopped using Fraulein ages ago, in fact a lot of Americans knew the word and still use it, when they visit, which gets them a bad reaction, when they try and chat up girls in pubs! |
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| Author: | paulzolo [ Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:37 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? | |||||||||
Images of monocles being affixed, moustaches being twiddled, and the phrase “I say…” being uttered no doubt flood their minds. 
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
Ms always makes me think women are devorced. Don't know why. I prefer Miss/Mrs to Ms. |
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| Author: | JJW009 [ Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
I never met a "normal" woman that expressed concern over using Miss or Mrs. Ms just makes me think "stuck up". Can you imagine calling your teacher, "Excuse me Muz" ? |
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| Author: | EddArmitage [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:34 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? | |||||||||
We had to for one teacher! |
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| Author: | davrosG5 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:19 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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I had a teacher who was a Ms. (and as far as I know she's always been a woman). As far as I'm concerned what a woman decides to use as a salutation is her own business, let the usage sort itself out. Unless a particular form is being used in a offensive or derogatory manner the legislators should leave well alone and let the language evolve on its own. |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
Men don't just have Mr, when you're a child theres Mstr (Master) too. |
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| Author: | ProfessorF [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
Or, when you've greased the right palms, Lord. 
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| Author: | leeds_manc [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The beginning of the end for the mademoiselle? |
Or if you were squeezed out of a sufficiently royal vagina: Duke |
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