Author |
Message |
Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
|
This is more for to satisfy my own curiosity than anything - would you describe yourself as a Monarchist?
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:16 pm |
|
 |
HeatherKay
Moderator
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
|
Not any more. 
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:30 pm |
|
 |
l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
|
Yes.
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:34 pm |
|
 |
JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
|
No, but I don't want to behead them either. In many ways I think a royal head of state is better than the alternatives.
_________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:36 pm |
|
 |
ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
|
Don't care either way frankly.
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:41 pm |
|
 |
jonlumb
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
|
On the whole, yes. In particular I do approve of the way the current monarch conducts herself. Unfortunately the most likely successor to throne is an apple that has falled a long way from the tree and will be very much a disaster.
_________________ "The woman is a riddle inside a mystery wrapped in an enigma I've had sex with."
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:42 pm |
|
 |
HeatherKay
Moderator
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
|

I become more republican in outlook as I get older.
My argument is this: we supposedly live in a meritocracy, where if you work hard you can climb the greasy pole and live the life of Riley. The thing is, no matter how hard you might graft you cannot become the monarch of the United Kingdom. It just isn't going to happen, because someone in the 18th century decided one particular family got to be Top Dog, and only those who happen to be born in The Family can get to play the game.
Other countries have heads of state who are elected. If you get fed up with them, they can be voted out of office. It's not a perfect system, but then I argue being chosen by dint of which uterus you emerge from isn't better. I find having a royal family getting to select a head of state by accident of birth a rather mediaeval outlook in this day and age, to be honest.
I'm not saying the Elizabeth II hasn't been a good monarch. She has performed the task set her well, despite some setbacks along the way. I hold no animosity to her or her relatives. I just think it's time for the nation to have an adult discussion about whether we want to continue as we have been for a millennia or so, or whether we want to get to choose our head of state democratically rather than genetically.
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:29 pm |
|
 |
Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
|
No.
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:29 pm |
|
 |
belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
|
In this supposed age of equality, a hereditary position is a gross act of discrimination.
_________________ Dive like a fish, drink like a fish!
><(((º>`•.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸><(((º> •.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸><(((º>`•.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸><(((º>
If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:32 pm |
|
 |
l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
|
+1 Pity we can't have William next.
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:39 pm |
|
 |
rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5836
|
Yes.
_________________Jim
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:39 pm |
|
 |
tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
|
No, but I'm probably more pro than anti.
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:01 pm |
|
 |
Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
|
As I understand it, a Monarchist is an advocate of constitutional monarchy as a form of government, regardless of who the actual monarch is. So, going back to Heather's post, the monarch has supreme oversight of our elected goverment, and the supposed power to dissolve parliament simply by right of birth.
I am in favour of democracy, but it's stretch to claim we have that in our country.
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:03 pm |
|
 |
leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 pm Posts: 5071 Location: Manchester
|
We have parliamentary sovereignty as part of our constitution, the monarch has the power to veto acts of parliament, but not parliament itself only the prime minister can do that for an election.
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:09 pm |
|
 |
JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
|
I don't think that's happened in my lifetime. I imagine some eyebrows would be raised if our monarch started taking an active political role instead of what is now mostly a symbolic one, where one does what is expected of one rather than what one may desire.
_________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
|
Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:14 pm |
|
|