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Author:  pcernie [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:49 pm ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17297714

Thoughts? Do you think Lucy would have been better off on the cider? ;)
Author:  JJW009 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:19 pm ]
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An expert said this was "as good as anything we've got".

LMFAO

Electro-Shock Therapy is "as good as anything we've got" for a lot of conditions. Not a big fan of it myself!!

It's like "we tried to fix it but nothing worked, so we hit it with a really big hammer. Now it doesn't work at all, but at least the warning light has gone out."
Author:  Linux_User [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:20 pm ]
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LSD is non-toxic and non-addictive, I don't see the problem using it. :?
Author:  ProfessorF [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:25 pm ]
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I haven't read the article, but LSD was used in the 60s for this sort of stuff. It's having a small renaissance in a few areas, including...
http://www.maps.org/research/sewick.html
Author:  tombolt [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:31 pm ]
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Haven't read the article, but it's not new.
Author:  JJW009 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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Linux_User wrote:
LSD is non-toxic and non-addictive, I don't see the problem using it. :?

There are psychological issues beyond addictiveness and physiological toxicity. I would not be comfortable seeing LSD widely prescribed without a huge amount of caution.

I have no statistics (Google didn't find many studies), but it would seem plausible that more alcoholics are pre-psychotic than non-alcoholics and thus susceptible to being "tipped over the edge". This may only be one in a thousand, but that could translate to very many cases if treatment became widespread.

Of course, alcoholism can be so devastating that perhaps the risk is worth it.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:03 pm ]
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I'd be amazed if it was used outside of an observed therapy session. I really can't see it being available over the counter at Boots, can you?
Author:  JJW009 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:10 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
can you?

No. Not in my lifetime.

Which makes it all rather academic.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:20 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
I'd be amazed if it was used outside of an observed therapy session.


I should've had put 'used medically' in that sentence.
It's used outside all the time - just look at Glastonbury.

This is also an interesting piece - http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/journal ... SLSD06.htm
Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:49 pm ]
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It only works because the LSD-induced pink elephant PWNS the alcohol pink elephant. :lol:
Author:  JJW009 [ Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:18 pm ]
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Sings *Pink Elephants on Parade, Pink Elephants on Parade*
Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:33 pm ]
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News just in: Laziness and scrounging cure work stress.....
Author:  jonbwfc [ Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:38 pm ]
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Hold on.. I like Alcohol pink elephants, and I like LSD pink elephants.. but which is best? There's only one way to find out....
Author:  Linux_User [ Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:10 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
News just in: Laziness and scrounging cure work stress.....

So do reduced working hours and better working conditions, fat chance of that with the Tories around.

Thank god for the Working Time Directive.
Author:  pcernie [ Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:41 pm ]
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Ketamine is dose-specific, so the amount taken determines the level of effect.

At low doses the user may feel euphoric, experience waves of energy, and possibly synaesthesia - sensations such as seeing sounds or hearing colours.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17344089

Never mind the LSD, eh? ;)
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