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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:42 am ]
Post subject:  BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
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BT is planning to allow consumers to install their own fibre broadband equipment later this year.

BT Wholesale currently sends an engineer to install fibre-to-the-cabinet (FTTC) connections, which incurs an installation fee of around £100, unless the cost is absorbed by the ISP.

However, a leaked BT Wholesale roadmap first obtained by ISPReview revealed that the company plans to allow customers to install their own equipment in the third quarter of this year. BT has subsequently confirmed the plans.

The "wires only" service will require customers to install new microfilters on every telephone extension in the house, as most customers already have to do with ADSL lines.

Would any body consider installing their own fibre?
Author:  saspro [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
You don't need to install any fibre.

You simply plug in the modem in to the phone line like you do with ADSL.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
I'd like fibre to home rather than fibre to cabinet, but there's no way I'd do it myself.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
l3v1ck wrote:
I'd like fibre to home rather than fibre to cabinet, but there's no way I'd do it myself.

I think the option is pay to get some to do it for you. FTTH would be preferable but how much would that cost?
Author:  JJW009 [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
FTTH actually costs no more than copper in theory... Except most people already have copper so it costs nothing.
Author:  saspro [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
Amnesia10 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
I'd like fibre to home rather than fibre to cabinet, but there's no way I'd do it myself.

I think the option is pay to get some to do it for you. FTTH would be preferable but how much would that cost?



Once FTTC is finished then then FTTP will start to roll out.

The cost of running fibre is expensive if it's just for one premises and it has to go back to the exchange. If there's fibre in a street cab then the cost will be reduced due to a reduced fibre length (but don't expect true 1gb bearers on this) but to make it truly affordable BT will need to do what cable did in the old days and dig up all the streets to run tails from the street cab to either the outside of every building.
This would mean a very short run of fibre to a premises when they decided they wanted FTTP and an install cost of less than £80-100 or so.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
Hell, I'd pay £100 for fibre to run to my house!
Especially since the local exchange is at the end of my back garden.
I believe the exchange is getting fibre in late 2014.
Author:  davrosG5 [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
You can get (or will shortly be able to get) FTTP installation to individual premises from Openreach in some areas but the service is aimed at businesses rather than consumers as the "we'll have a look at it" price starts at £500 with any actual installation costs being added on top. I'll need to dig around the Thinkbroadband site for the info.
Author:  saspro [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
FTTP has always been available if you've got the budget.

Last installation quote I had was just over £12k.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
saspro wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
I'd like fibre to home rather than fibre to cabinet, but there's no way I'd do it myself.

I think the option is pay to get some to do it for you. FTTH would be preferable but how much would that cost?



Once FTTC is finished then then FTTP will start to roll out.

The cost of running fibre is expensive if it's just for one premises and it has to go back to the exchange. If there's fibre in a street cab then the cost will be reduced due to a reduced fibre length (but don't expect true 1gb bearers on this) but to make it truly affordable BT will need to do what cable did in the old days and dig up all the streets to run tails from the street cab to either the outside of every building.
This would mean a very short run of fibre to a premises when they decided they wanted FTTP and an install cost of less than £80-100 or so.

There are homes that are still connected to telephone poles IIRC. For them it would a matter of connecting from the pole to the home. Though longer term BT will need to invest in more fibre and they can at least offset it with the sale of copper once they have completed the transition.
Author:  saspro [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
Amnesia10 wrote:
There are homes that are still connected to telephone poles IIRC. For them it would a matter of connecting from the pole to the home. Though longer term BT will need to invest in more fibre and they can at least offset it with the sale of copper once they have completed the transition.


Fibre is always buried, it doesn't like swinging in the wind.
They also still need the copper for phones (until everyone moves over to IP phones via broadband.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
saspro wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
There are homes that are still connected to telephone poles IIRC. For them it would a matter of connecting from the pole to the home. Though longer term BT will need to invest in more fibre and they can at least offset it with the sale of copper once they have completed the transition.


Fibre is always buried, it doesn't like swinging in the wind.
They also still need the copper for phones (until everyone moves over to IP phones via broadband.

That makes the digging up the pavement comment earlier more sensible. Though will BT actually bother with that expense?
Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
Doubt it.
Didn't I read somewhere that they could run fibre through drain pipes?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  BT to launch install-your-own fibre this summer
l3v1ck wrote:
Doubt it.
Didn't I read somewhere that they could run fibre through drain pipes?

There was an ISP who used water pipes to do exactly that. I think they were called H2O.


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