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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23503552

Hmmm. Why do I get the feeling we're simply being distracted here?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
Quote:
Regulators are to get more power to act against companies responsible, while cold callers will not be allowed to conceal their number - making reporting unwanted calls easier.

A licensing system for call centres may also be introduced in the future.

Maria Miller said the changes would ensure the rights of consumers "are not lost in the dash for progress".

Recent research from Ofcom found 82% of people had received an unwanted phone call and on average received two such "nuisance" calls a week.

I doubt that this will work. I have caller ID and get at least a five international calls a week that I now have to simply ignore. These would not be covered by this. Make the penalties severe and then you can end the problem. Too many services require you to give a phone number and then hide the check box that authorises cold calls. Make the caller ID display the country at least then you can at least block calls from countries that you are not expecting.
Author:  AlunD [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:04 am ]
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I must admit I got a "CPR call blocker" plugged it in and told it to ignore IP calls and suddenly we haven't had any nuisance calls since. :D

If the odd normal number nuisance call, calls us we simply press a button and that number is blocked in future.
Author:  big_D [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:18 am ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
I doubt that this will work. I have caller ID and get at least a five international calls a week that I now have to simply ignore.

That's why you never answer my calls! ;)
Author:  big_D [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
AlunD wrote:
I must admit I got a "CPR call blocker" plugged it in and told it to ignore IP calls and suddenly we haven't had any nuisance calls since. :D

If the odd normal number nuisance call, calls us we simply press a button and that number is blocked in future.

Hmm, that wouldn't work over here. 70% of new domestic lines being installed over here are IP based.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
big_D wrote:
AlunD wrote:
I must admit I got a "CPR call blocker" plugged it in and told it to ignore IP calls and suddenly we haven't had any nuisance calls since. :D

If the odd normal number nuisance call, calls us we simply press a button and that number is blocked in future.

Hmm, that wouldn't work over here. 70% of new domestic lines being installed over here are IP based.

I think the majority of calls now are IP here.


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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
big_D wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
I doubt that this will work. I have caller ID and get at least a five international calls a week that I now have to simply ignore.

That's why you never answer my calls! ;)

Sorry about that. ;)


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Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
big_D wrote:
AlunD wrote:
I must admit I got a "CPR call blocker" plugged it in and told it to ignore IP calls and suddenly we haven't had any nuisance calls since. :D

If the odd normal number nuisance call, calls us we simply press a button and that number is blocked in future.

Hmm, that wouldn't work over here. 70% of new domestic lines being installed over here are IP based.

How can it tell they're "IP calls" just from the caller ID? They're indistinguishable assuming they're not sending a screwed up phone number.

Most calls are routed over IP these days at some stage.
Author:  big_D [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:31 pm ]
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Also a good point, IP numbers are the same as any other local number, at least over here, if they are from the normal Telcos (Telekom, Vodafone, O2, 1&1 etc.). Specialist VOIP providers, like SIPgate have their own ranges, but those bought as part of a telephone/internet bundle will have local numbers.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
We couldn't block IP calls as most rig phones are IP based these days.
Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
big_D wrote:
Also a good point, IP numbers are the same as any other local number, at least over here, if they are from the normal Telcos (Telekom, Vodafone, O2, 1&1 etc.). Specialist VOIP providers, like SIPgate have their own ranges, but those bought as part of a telephone/internet bundle will have local numbers.

Most evil annoying people you'd want to block spoof someone else's number anyway.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
JJW009 wrote:
big_D wrote:
Also a good point, IP numbers are the same as any other local number, at least over here, if they are from the normal Telcos (Telekom, Vodafone, O2, 1&1 etc.). Specialist VOIP providers, like SIPgate have their own ranges, but those bought as part of a telephone/internet bundle will have local numbers.

Most evil annoying people you'd want to block spoof someone else's number anyway.

They hide behind international numbers anyway.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:38 am ]
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They need to ban UK companies using foreign companies to call UK numbers to get round TPS rules etc.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
l3v1ck wrote:
They need to ban UK companies using foreign companies to call UK numbers to get round TPS rules etc.

The problem is that many are probably scams hiding behind the name of a big well known company. I had a call from India claiming to be from Microsoft and they tried to direct me to a website that loaded malware. I just frustrated them with nonsensical answers till they hung up. I googled the website and it was a known malware scam.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'Crackdown' on nuisance phone calls amongst other things
Yeah that is a bigger problem.
They tried that with my father-in-law a year or so ago.
Thankfully we walked in half way through the process and (literally) pulled the plug.
I gave them both barrels down the phone. Didn't stop them repeatedly calling back though.
This is one reason why we're exdirectory. It makes it harder for spammers and con men to get your number. Sure they could dial random numbers, but that's more hassle for them than going through a phone book.
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