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Author: | pcernie [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:17 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Bring on the ugly women | |||||||||
http://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/ ... ugly-women I'd be interested in your thoughts on that, it's something that goes around my head all the time when watching the news and other programmes. For instance I think Fiona Bruce hams it up something shocking, so I'd sooner somebody less glamorous (for want of a better word) but more capable did the job. I don't hold out much hope though when you see male presenters dying their hair and the likes of ITV thinking hiring Susie Reid will solve all their problems. You've also got the question of how many men and women are watching shows in part because they fancy the presenter, or, as quite a few women have said to me, 'I like to have a nosey at what the women are wearing'*... Actually, I could see a lot of women getting pissed off if the news for instance went 'less glam' ![]() ![]() * My mother will sit for hours watching the shopping channel types discuss cushions, so I could believe it. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Bring on the ugly women |
One doesn't like to be indelicate, but there are a fair few female correspondents on the BBC News channel who, while I absolutely respect their ability to communicate complex issues very well, patently didn't get the job because of their looks. It seems to me that the ones who sit behind the desk linking the reports together tend to be the ones you can believe were chosen because they were photogenic, both male and female, whereas the specialists are very much more 'do you know your stuff and can you explain it properly'. |
Author: | TheFrenchun [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Bring on the ugly women |
How about getting more attractive men on TV instead of uglier women? TV is a visual media, surely appearance is important. * tongue in cheek* I'd still vote for Alan Hansen presenting everything, and I don't even like football. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:52 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: Bring on the ugly women | |||||||||
Seems to me you don't get to be a male newsreader in the UK until you're at least 40. If there's one obvious difference it's that women get pushed forward earlier, but men last in the post longer. |
Author: | big_D [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Bring on the ugly women |
People trust older men newsreaders, because they have 'experience', on the other hand female newsreaders seem to be chosen for looks and often don't last as long - just look at the number of Hollywood film made addressing this issue! On the other hand, here in Germany there are several more mature women who run news magazines and gossip shows, though they are still 'good looking'. But with a chancellor like Angela, there are a number of more robust women appearing on TV now, which I find good. |
Author: | oceanicitl [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Bring on the ugly women |
Women become invisible as they get older, generally men don't as much. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:58 am ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Not sure we can use Hollywood as a reliable witness ![]()
Well it's not a universal rule - There are a couple of older women doing regular stints on the BBC news channel and in fact their 8:30-10:30 slot seems to be a slot they present all the time - I can't remember the woman who used to do that but she's gone off to be the head of BBC News's China office. has short blond hair. Plus Maxime Mahwinny has been the regular Saturday morning anchor on both the news channel and BBC 1 News since, well, ages. In fact if I'm honest, I can't actually think of any young (say less than 30) female news anchors on the BBC. Kate Silverton's probably youngest and she's in her 30's I think. (EDIT: according to wikipedia, Kate Silverton is 43. Sophie Long is the youngest of the regular anchors and she's 38).
Be interesting to see who the news anchors were when Mrs. T. was in power... At the end of it, I don't personally mind that anchor presenter role is partially about looks. They're window dressing, almost ornamental in fact and who has ugly ornaments? As long as the specialist correspondents - the ones who have to know their stuff and interpret rather than the just report the news - are good at their job, how they look is irrelevant to me. |
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