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Author: | saspro [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brexit Britain |
Now correct me if I'm wrong (I may well be), but say we decide not to agree to the 2nd worst trade deal in history & go WTO (worst trade deal in history). Does that still not still leave us with the massive problems of actually getting goods we've traded in & out of the country? We may be able to trade (with heavy tarrifs) but we still won't be allowed to land planes, cross borders with trucks etc How would thethe majority of Leave voters feel when they suddenly realise that a "no deal" Brexit means we can't get booze & fags in to the country any more? |
Author: | paulzolo [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:19 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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The WTO works in an interesting way, and we’ve already fallen foul of it. We don’t just rock up and say “hey, we want to trade under WTO rules” and off we go. We actually have to say what we want to trade, what tariffs we’ll be applying, and so on. It‘s quite detailed. Then the other WTO countries have a think about it and come back with an acceptance or a rejection. The thing is, if we have a competing country that doesn’t like out tariffs on their products, then they can easily veto our proposal. In essence, one country can shut our trading plans down. Oh, hello, Russia.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... to-plan-uk This is another major hurdle, and our relations with Russia aren’t that great at the moment, so they’ll be quite keen on throwing us under a bus. Also, Liam Fox is doing this, so, well, you know. Trading under WTO rules is not the easy option that people think it is. |
Author: | big_D [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brexit Britain |
So, the German B1 and the citizenship tests are both out of the way. I have to wait 6 weeks for the certificates, but I know that I have passed the B1 and I think I'm well over the required minimum in the citizenship test. Of the 30 people taking the test today, about a third were British. |
Author: | paulzolo [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brexit Britain |
Aaron Banks may have p1ssed on the Brexit chips https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 49001.html |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brexit Britain |
I think for Brexiteers and Remainers alike, the best sceanario now is: 1) Deal fails to get voted in by parliament 2) PM delcares the public will decide in a two questions referendum: Question 1) Should we accept the deal that has been negotiated? Yes/No Question 2) If not, should we leave the EU without a deal or remain in the EU? |
Author: | Spreadie [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:20 pm ] | |||||||||
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Should we accept the deal? The one that is actually worse than remaining in the EU? Really can't see that being a popular choice. Although I am reckoning without the sound and rational reasoning skills of the 17m [LIFTED] that voted for this mess in the first place. |
Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:57 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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17,410,742 free thinking individuals to be exact ... |
Author: | paulzolo [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:35 am ] | |||||||||
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http://jackofkent.com/2018/11/three-vis ... rexit-fog/ Coming this week - the EU General Court hears the EU Citizen case. Can UK citizens still be EU citizens after Brexit? Coming soon - the “Meaningful Vote” which is parliament deciding on May’s deal. Nothing here that key allies, including the DUP, are likely to vote against it. Expect May & cabinet to ramp up selling this deal to everyone and anyone. Maybe more resignations, and possibly an uptick of pressure from the ERG in getting a no confidence vote in May. Also coming later - a private case against Boris Johnson for lying in office. (I don’t have much more on this, but let’s see where that one goes). Possible event - Corbyn & May debating all of this on TV. Another possible event - Tory leadership campaign / General Election as May realises she can’t push her deal through, or she loses the vote in the Commons. Coming soon - Christmas break. Two weeks when bugger all happens in politics. The next few weeks will be interesting. |
Author: | big_D [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:30 am ] | |||||||||
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I'm already assuming the worst on this and getting my German citizenship. |
Author: | paulzolo [ Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:36 pm ] | |||||||||
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46366162 |
Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brexit Britain |
i am posting an article from the Guardian. please have a read it hits a lot of nails on the head ... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -deal-risk |
Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:27 am ] | |||||||||
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i am posting an article from the Guardian. please have a read it hits a lot of nails on the head ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -deal-risk |
Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:47 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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anybody heard of the 'The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties was ratified in 1980' ...
full article ... https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/co ... 67296.html interesting to say the least ... |
Author: | paulzolo [ Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:39 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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As you may have seen last night, the Government got a quadruple whammy of things that did not go their way yesterday:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-46428579 This is currently an opinion, but it’s usual that such opinions become a fact. Out government spent a lot of money trying to block this ruling.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46446694 All this before May had to open the 5 day debate about the draft agreement. As of yesterday, this seems to be an uphill struggle. |
Author: | paulzolo [ Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:42 am ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I believe I have. I mentioned it earlier in this thread (or many another one). It also has provisions for dealing with elections and referendums which are deemed to be fraudulent. Given the current state of the 2016 referendum, it could well apply. However, as that referendum was non binding - there was no legal requirement in the Act for the government to do anything about it - it doesn’t apply here, though it is possible that other avenues of legislation could be explored to nullify the result and the consequential laws laid down following it. Interesting times, etc.. |
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