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Author:  pcernie [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:03 pm ]
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Hoping 'Avatar' is the new face of filmmaking

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/ne ... ory?page=1

Thought that was an interesting article since it looked at the whole Avatar project overall - question is, will you be going to see it?

I don't think I will somehow, as I have doubts about my ability to sit through a CGI-fest, never mind one that requires 3D glasses to get the full experience... That's a maybe from me, and re-voting is allowed ;)

I'm kinda worried that it will do well, as that'll almost certainly mean a rush to 'CGI the actors' for the sake of it. Shows like this can struggle with a plot :oops:

Anyway, sorry about the rambling, what's your take on where things are going or just what you've seen of Avatar so far?

Author:  leeds_manc [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:30 pm ]
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The new Waterworld.

Author:  pcernie [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:34 pm ]
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leeds_manc wrote:
The new Waterworld.


I've never saw that film the whole way through - probably never will ;)

I think Avatar may be able to make enough money from the cost of 3D screenings, their financing deals etc to make it worthwhile for the studio :)

Author:  Paul1965 [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:36 pm ]
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I'm looking forward to seeing Avatar but am avoiding seeing any more previews from now until then. I know someone who's working at Weta Digital over in New Zealand and he says Avatar is a big step forward in film-making. I don't think Avatar will damage other films as everything seems to be a CGI-fest anyway (2012, etc) and I am bloody sick of superhero films so it will be refreshing to see something different and hopefully above comic book/game level for a change. One will have to trust that James Cameron knows what he's doing.

I am more wary of upcoming films like TinTin and The Hobbit.....why bother? Yes, I know there are very very few original ideas in Hollywood (apart from perhaps Pixar), but I'm hoping that if Avatar is a bit different then it might inspire someone to make a film that isn't formulaic.

Author:  leeds_manc [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:38 pm ]
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I don't think they could have made the trailer any more irritating and bland if they had tried, it's like all the Final Fantasy FMV sequences since Final Fantasy 7 rolled into one, and we all know how well The Spirits Within did.

Author:  Paul1965 [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:41 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
I've never saw that film the whole way through - probably never will ;)


Attention Deficit Disorder?! ;) You seem to give up on quite a few films!

I liked Waterworld. Quite liked The Spirits Within too. Not many other people can say that!

Author:  leeds_manc [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:55 pm ]
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I like Waterworld, in fact I've seen it a few times (on telly) but I'm prediciting it will bomb at the US cinemas and have a lukewarm reception overseas, at least I hope it does otherwise, OMG can you imagine how annoying films are going to become?

Author:  bally199 [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:05 pm ]
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Meh.

Just another weeaboo animu film isn't it? :)

Weeaboo = Someone who thinks they're japanese. EG someone who speaks like OMG SO KAWAII1!!!!!!!!!~~~DESU! :P

Author:  pcernie [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:11 pm ]
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Paul1965 wrote:

I'm looking forward to seeing Avatar but am avoiding seeing any more previews from now until then.


Yeah, I'm avoiding the previews in case I do go to see it.

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I don't think Avatar will damage other films as everything seems to be a CGI-fest anyway (2012, etc) and I am bloody sick of superhero films so it will be refreshing to see something different and hopefully above comic book/game level for a change. One will have to trust that James Cameron knows what he's doing.


Well, it won't matter to you I 'spose, but if Avatar paves the way (and cheap enough), you can expect a lot more superhero films with multi-star CGI casts as a result ;)

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I am more wary of upcoming films like TinTin and The Hobbit.....why bother? Yes, I know there are very very few original ideas in Hollywood (apart from perhaps Pixar), but I'm hoping that if Avatar is a bit different then it might inspire someone to make a film that isn't formulaic.


I know what you mean, but if Avatar is as cohesive as it's 'sposed to be, future films like TinTin could be the short term future at the very least...

Paul1965 wrote:
pcernie wrote:
I've never saw that film the whole way through - probably never will ;)


Attention Deficit Disorder?! ;) You seem to give up on quite a few films!


No, it's just there's a few reasons I give up on films:

I often realise I'm about to waste two hours and quit (actually wish I'd done that with Titanic :oops: )

The ads become so annoying when they're on TV that I find I'm expecting them rather than getting engrossed in the film.

The bloody phone goes or someone calls :(

I've often seem bits of films at my uncle's house over the years, but he's got kids running about and you can never take it in.

It's been a really bad copy :oops:

It's been a rental disc that's been handled by a fcuktard :x

Author:  ProfessorF [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:13 pm ]
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leeds_manc wrote:
The new Waterworld.


The new Smurfs, according to South Park.

Author:  pcernie [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:15 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
leeds_manc wrote:
The new Waterworld.


The new Smurfs, according to South Park.


Hitler's take (which you may have seen previously ;) ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAPyipuT-Jg

Author:  ProfessorF [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:17 pm ]
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Paul1965 wrote:
Quite liked The Spirits Within too.


Was that the Final Fantasy movie that actually dared have a dying character say something like 'Leave me a gun, go on without me, I'll only slow you down'?
That was dreadful.

Author:  leeds_manc [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:23 pm ]
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You remember something from that film? You have a better memory than I ;) Although I remember the few scary moments when one of them looked uncannily like Donald Sutherland.

Author:  Spreadie [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:31 pm ]
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leeds_manc wrote:
You remember something from that film? You have a better memory than I ;) Although I remember the few scary moments when one of them looked uncannily like Donald Sutherland.

Wasn't the character voiced by Donald Sutherland?

Author:  Paul1965 [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:24 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
The ads become so annoying when they're on TV that I find I'm expecting them rather than getting engrossed in the film.


True. I rarely bother or tape them so I can speed through the ads. Jaws was on one of the ITV channels not too long ago and they cut a bit out of the ending just so they could get the full quota of ads in.

pcernie wrote:
It's been a rental disc that's been handled by a fcuktard


Happens a lot, doesn't it? What on earth do some dimwits do with the discs? The only way round this at my local Blockbusters is to rent subtitled films as most of the customers find it difficult to watch a film and read at the same time.

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