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Author:  pcernie [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  The VAT rise

This story has got me thinking about the VAT going back up. I'm wondering if it'll affect any of you in any great way, or will you just carry on as normal? :?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8435887.stm

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several retailers have said that they will delay passing on the higher rate, while others say they will absorb the cost of the increase.

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Supermarket giants Tesco, Sainsbury's and Asda have all said that they will delay passing on the increased rate on thousands of products.

But Tesco has been accused of raising prices ahead of the tax rise.

A report in the Daily Mail claims that Tesco, Boots and Morrisons have all increased the prices of certain items in recent weeks.

Tesco told the newspaper its price changes had "no link whatsoever" to the VAT increase.

"A small proportion of products will have increased in price but this is either because of special offers coming to an end or an increase in the cost price. Many more prices have fallen than increased," a Tesco spokesperson said.

Boots said it benchmarked its prices against other retailers.

Morrisons, which has not claimed that it would freeze VAT, said prices vary throughout the year "reflecting costs and promotional changes".

Meanwhile, Argos and John Lewis both say they will not raise prices until the end of January.

Arcadia Group, which owns Topshop, Dorothy Perkins and BHS, has said it will absorb the cost of the increase in all of its stores.

But Marks and Spencer will raise prices on all general merchandise from 1 January and on food items on which the tax is paid from 11 January.

Shoppers will not notice a difference on price tags, though, as the retailer never displayed the VAT reduction on tags, instead giving customers a 2.5% discount at the till.


I don't think it'll make much difference to me personally, but we'll see...

Author:  nvj1662 [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:34 pm ]
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I suppose that being a rise across the board, no place will be relatively cheaper or more expensive than before; if you need to buy it, you still will.

Author:  saspro [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:36 pm ]
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The pub near my office is making a big fuss about not raising it's prices when the VAT changes back.

I did point out to him that he didn't lower his prices when it went down though.

Author:  AlunD [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:40 pm ]
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saspro wrote:
The pub near my office is making a big fuss about not raising it's prices when the VAT changes back.

I did point out to him that he didn't lower his prices when it went down though.

Putting it up at midnight to night could also be rather difficult for him. :roll:

Author:  HeatherKay [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:41 pm ]
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I'm waiting for the fuel prices to go up astronomically. :evil:

Author:  AlunD [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:42 pm ]
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HeatherKay wrote:
I'm waiting for the fuel prices to go up astronomically. :evil:


Doesn't need the VAT rate to change for that to happen :roll:

Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:04 pm ]
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AlunD wrote:
HeatherKay wrote:
I'm waiting for the fuel prices to go up astronomically. :evil:

Doesn't need the VAT rate to change for that to happen :roll:

The thing that's irritating me is they actually put up fuel duty to offset the loss to the exchequer caused by the reduction in V.A.T. Are they now reducing fuel duty now the V.A.T. holiday is ended? Oh go on, have a guess...

Jon

Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:10 pm ]
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Just filled up before it goes up tonight.

Author:  adidan [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The VAT rise

What a joke. In the beginning it looked like the VAT reduction was passed on but prices have crept up so I don't think in reality it's been passed on for a long while.

Now they can up the price again saying it's because of the VAT increase.

As for petrol, I think this is the first recession in history where it's actually gone up in price rather than down thanks to all the good for nothing traders playing with the market.

* grumble, grumble *

Author:  koli [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The VAT rise

People, you have to admit that price is set by demand and supply forces. And it works for 99% of the goods in economy, admittedly there are some market inefficiencies...

Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:12 pm ]
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koli wrote:
People, you have to admit that price is set by demand and supply forces.


Not for everything. It's often set by what the market will stand. Diamonds are a great example of this.

Author:  adidan [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:15 pm ]
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koli wrote:
People, you have to admit that price is set by demand and supply forces. And it works for 99% of the goods in economy, admittedly there are some market inefficiencies...

Petrol isn't completely. Investors have hugely affected that market.

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:49 pm ]
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koli wrote:
People, you have to admit that price is set by demand and supply forces.

No, prices aren't always set by supply and demand. Prices are also set as high as the supplier thinks they can get away with.

Author:  koli [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:11 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
Prices are also set as high as the supplier thinks they can get away with.

Yes, because there is demand for that product at that price, that's how it works.

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:21 pm ]
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koli wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
Prices are also set as high as the supplier thinks they can get away with.

Yes, because there is demand for that product at that price, that's how it works.


mmmm rolex, cartier, ferrari. Price is set independently from demand.

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