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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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I'm sure many of us have done work for friends and family where we've been "paid in kind", bought a pint or maybe given a few quid cash-in-hand.
Obviously, work like this is supposed to be declared to the tax man, who always demands his pound of flesh. However, even the IRS would get sick of it if everyone declared every pint of best they'd been bought for fixing someone's printer.
So, what's the limit? What would you accept, knowing full well that you'll never put it on a tax return? Tick any that apply.
Anyone know if there is there an actual legally defined limit? That would make such decisions a lot simpler!
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Blue_Nowhere
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:57 pm Posts: 2220 Location: Here for now...
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I think the most I've ever accepted was about 150pounds which to be fair some friends posted through the door as they knew I wouldn't take it from them.
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snowyweston
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:28 pm Posts: 851 Location: EC1 Baby!
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If I earnt it - I keep it. All of it.
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veato
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:17 am Posts: 5550 Location: Nottingham
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If i was doing it for a favour and they decided to give me something out of the goodness of their own heart then I wouldnt declare a single penny. Gordon takes enough money from me (and passes it to the great unwashed) as it is.
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:39 am |
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saspro
Site Admin
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm Posts: 8603 Location: location, location
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If it's not a cheque then it's not taxable (in my books anyway). The tax man takes almost £1000 a month off me as it is.
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:42 am |
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dogbert10
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:23 pm Posts: 638 Location: 3959 miles from the centre of the Earth - give or take a bit
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If the money is in return for something you've done "as a favour" and not as part of your job then there is no limit to how much they can give you and you don't have to declare it as it's a "gift". The only proviso is that if the person that gives you the gift dies within 7 years you may be liable for inheritance tax. As long as a record is kept then you don't need to declare it.
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Geiseric
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:35 pm Posts: 1657 Location: Ipswich
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Most of my home work is done for back scratching but if I do work for a friend of a friend then I charge an hourly rate.
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:44 am |
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lacloss
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:48 am Posts: 1751 Location: Marbella Spain
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Doing some heating work and electrical work on the new house, reckoned with about 250€ for the heating and a bit more for the electrician (he get 10€ an hour + materials) - he laid 20 new power points in the kitchen, a new tripbox and will replace the light switches and socket surrounds with something a little more modern...
If I do work for the family, I never charge - and it paid off Tina's family have had some help over the last 2 years, when their computers played up, now they are tearing down walls and wallpapering etc. in the new house.
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onemac
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:14 pm Posts: 1598 Location: Right here...... Right now.......
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I never charge for anything I do for friends or family. I prefer the barter system as both parties reckon they've got the best of the deal and the taxman is less interested in goods as opposed to cold hard cash. I reckon the more you help people, the more you are likely to get help when you need it, eh Dave? Business is different though Al
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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Interestingly you can get a lot more in terms of value by not using money for a transaction with friends/family, as long as you can barter properly of course  I agree, helping others is more likely for you to get help That said I have got cash in hand of £200+ a week rarely but pretty much spent it in the shop... so I just got paid in goods instead of money lol didn't declare it as it was usually under the NI threshold and my only source of income at the time
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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I've only ever helped out friends and family and the jobs have never been daunting or significant enough to expect payment. I've helped a computer novice buy their first PC and learn to use it. I've acted as a taxi driver. I've helped with moving houses. Done a few bits and bobs of the handyman type stuff But given that it's friends and family, I've never asked for nor expected anything in terms of 'payment' - partly because I'm happy to help out and partly because I have a good chit-chat with the other person - it kind of increases bonding and strengthens relationships.
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lacloss
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:48 am Posts: 1751 Location: Marbella Spain
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_________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming... Damn, What a ride!!
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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As much as I can get away with.
I earned about 3k tax free last summer. Plan to do the same this summer.
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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IRS? Are we in America now? It's HMRC, previously the Inland Revenue.
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