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Author:  pcernie [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:27 pm ]
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The presenter Jonathan Ross claims that the atmosphere within the BBC has changed so dramatically, with those running it constantly trying to second guess what newspapers and the next government will say about them, that he can't wait to leave.

After years as one of the BBC's highest paid and most criticised stars he will leave his Friday night chatshow, the Film 2010 programme and his Saturday morning Radio 2 music show when his contract expires in July. His most recent three year contract was reputed to be worth £18m, a sum neither he nor the BBC ever confirmed.

Ross has already said that his decision to leave was not financially motivated, but that there were "other considerations".

In an interview in tomorrow's Guardian Weekend magazine, he gives the first insight into those considerations. "I can't wait to get out ... because the whole place has changed quite dramatically. I think it's a shame that the people running it are always trying to second guess what the newspapers will say about them – and whatever the next government we wind up with will say about them. The experience of being there isn't quite the place it was. And it's a terrible, terrible shame."

In 2008 Ross triggered one of the greatest scandals to hit the corporation in recent years, when he and comedian Russell Brand left a series of obscene phone messages for the actor Andrew Sachs about his granddaughter, prompting 38,000 complaints to the broadcast watchdog Ofcom.

In the interview Ross described the experience as "quite fun".

"It was quite entertaining. It was weird watching people get themselves into a lather over something so intrinsically unimportant as that. It was just so silly. Silly people writing silly things.

"Life can sometimes potter along in the same direction, and then something comes along over which you have no control. It was literally within about four days of it all kicking off that I just thought, you know what, there's no way I can control this, there's no way I can change this. So I've just got to not let it bother me. And it became almost like I was watching it happen to somebody else."

He is writing a new comic book, Turf – illustrated by the American artist Tommy Lee Edwards – but said he is determined to keep working in TV.

"One of the hardest things about leaving the BBC was the fact that a lot of people love the shows, and I feel I owe it to them and their loyalty not to waltz off. And part of the reason is I don't want the people who did come out against me to in any way have a sense of triumph. It's as simple as that.

"So it's really just to continue being an irritant. They're not people I have ever respected or liked, and if I can continue to be very publicly successful, that is its own reward for me."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/ap ... c-tv-radio

I'm just curious as to what others make of that. With the benefit of hindsight, was it all overblown?

I'd say that it was overblown by the press, though it shouldn't have happened in the first place, and while I agree with most of what he's saying there, I don't agree with the comment of it being 'intrinsically unimportant'...

Author:  soddit112 [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:41 pm ]
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clicky

Author:  AlunD [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:07 am ]
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His channel 4 chat show has been dropped. :D

Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:30 pm ]
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Arse, door, etc.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:26 pm ]
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His actions were worse than Brands, who at least resigned. Wossy was an A-hole of the highest order and so gave up on his shows ages ago. He was gwossly overpaid. It was his actions that gave the ret of the media a reason to attack the BBC.

Author:  mikepgood [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:07 pm ]
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Can't saw I'll miss him Poss only for film program, where he wasn't too bad.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:43 pm ]
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mikepgood wrote:
Can't saw I'll miss him Poss only for film program, where he wasn't too bad.

True but that was because it was harder to make it all about him. He did have a love for film which showed through.

Author:  pcernie [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:19 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
His actions were worse than Brands, who at least resigned. Wossy was an A-hole of the highest order and so gave up on his shows ages ago. He was gwossly overpaid. It was his actions that gave the ret of the media a reason to attack the BBC.


Wasn't Brand pretty much forced to leave (not that he shouldn't have expected it)? And the BBC had paid Ross too much money to get rid of him at that point.

There was definitely a hint of the attacks being directed at the BBC (from the usual suspects obviously), but I think they were more about looking to bring down Ross since 'he'd gotten too big for his boots' in their eyes, which would be typical of the mainstream British press attitude...

Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:30 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
Wasn't Brand pretty much forced to leave (not that he shouldn't have expected it)? And the BBC had paid Ross too much money to get rid of him at that point.

I think they could very easily have got away with calling it gross misconduct and terminated his contract without compensation. They chose not to because his shows were much more popular than Brand's. Brand was essentially made the scapegoat, regardless of who was actually at fault. Of course it was an utterly self-serving decision by the BBC management to do it that way that did them, if anything, less credit than Brand or Ross. It should have been both of them or neither. I have little time for Ross, I think he's frankly a bit thick but if Brand had overstepped the mark, Ross definitely had.

pcernie wrote:
There was definitely a hint of the attacks being directed at the BBC (from the usual suspects obviously), but I think they were more about looking to bring down Ross since 'he'd gotten too big for his boots' in their eyes, which would be typical of the mainstream British press attitude...

Well if the amount he was being reported as being paid were even vaguely accurate, he was grossly overvalued and that made him a target. Of course the people who should have been being slated were the management who decided to agree to the contract with him. But they rather left him to hang in the wind over it, although he managed to tough it out.

Can you see the common theme here? The BBC management are, frankly, an appalling bunch of incompetents who have done more to ruin a great institution than Rupert Murdoch could dream of.

Author:  pcernie [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:42 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
Can you see the common theme here? The BBC management are, frankly, an appalling bunch of incompetents who have done more to ruin a great institution than Rupert Murdoch could dream of.


Couldn't agree more, and I've often wondered what would happen if they consciously made a decision to stop the nonsense of chasing ratings and announced it? It'll never happen, but it would possibly help solve a lot of their problems...

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:26 pm ]
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Brand was the scapegoat, but the BBC did not want to lose a big star like Wossy. I heard the telephone call on the Brand show and it was mainly Wossy who caused offence. The press have it in for the BBC because with it around they cannot charge for UK web news. I will be glad to see the back of Wossy. The BBC should make a star of someone new. It would be a lot cheaper as well.

Author:  paulzolo [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:19 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Brand was the scapegoat, but the BBC did not want to lose a big star like Wossy. I heard the telephone call on the Brand show and it was mainly Wossy who caused offence. The press have it in for the BBC because with it around they cannot charge for UK web news. I will be glad to see the back of Wossy. The BBC should make a star of someone new. It would be a lot cheaper as well.


I’m sure they will be more than happy to plaster Graham Norton over our screens at any given opportunity.

Author:  JJW009 [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:29 pm ]
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Am I the only person here who actually likes Mr Woss ?

I find his sarcastic "I don't care who I offend, this is what I think" laid back and somewhat self-important style of wit very entertaining and easy to laugh along with.

I think he's a good entertainer.

Is he over paid? That's up to the market to value.

Author:  belchingmatt [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:31 pm ]
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JJW009 wrote:
Is he over paid? That's up to the market to value.


The BBC shouldn't be part of the normal market.

Author:  JJW009 [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:40 pm ]
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belchingmatt wrote:
JJW009 wrote:
Is he over paid? That's up to the market to value.


The BBC shouldn't be part of the normal market.

Are you saying people working for the BBC should consider it "charity work" and do it for cheap or free??

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