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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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<Bratty> http://www.naturalnews.com/034356_tweets_surveillance_government.htmlAnd there we have it. They're not even being subtle about it. Does anybody here care? </Bratty>
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:26 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Twitter, being a US company working on US territory, is subject to the Patriot Act anyway, so I don't see that anything is any different here.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:37 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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I don't find this surprising at all. In fact, if I had bothered to ponder the matter beforehand, I would probably have expected it.
The USA is at least as paranoid and invasive now as at any time in it's past.
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:41 am |
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leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 pm Posts: 5071 Location: Manchester
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I struggle to understand the concept of broadcasting your thoughts to the public and then complaining about privacy, in much the same way as I struggle to understand the concept of people not liking to be "watched" by cameras when, if attacked in the street, they will gladly use the footage to catch the attackers. If you don't want to be seen or heard, stay at home and say nothing  If you do want to be seen and heard, go out in to society and act socially, don't incite racial hatred or bully people, don't plot to do criminal acts, and you will be free! "freedom" means you are free to do whatever you want within the limits of the law, and concepts like this change nothing.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:40 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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To me, that reads like "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear". The favoured cry of politicians who wish to strip away your rights, under the guise of providing security.
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:46 am |
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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I use Twitter. I work on the basis that I only tweet things I am happy to share with random strangers.
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:49 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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I use the Internet. I work on the basis that I only post things I am happy to share with random strangers. Twitter is first and foremost a broadcast system, so they don't really need to "give" the US Government access, other than the amount of bandwidth that must burn... But direct messages "should" be private, but the (un)Patriot(ic) Act means that Twitter doesn't have a choice anyway - the same a cloud providers in general. This is the main reason that using cloud services in Europe is a big no-no for most businesses, if they use an international cloud provider. If the cloud provider receives a request (not a court order) from the USG, they have to hand over your data, but they aren't allowed to inform you that the data has been handed to a third party, outside of Europe, which leaves YOU open to prosecution for "releasing" the data to a third party (even though you didn't, YOU are responsible for ensuring the data doesn't leave the EU / isn't seen by a third party outside the EU*). * Inside the EU there are rules in place which restrict this distribution anyway, which have to be followed and at least the authorities here can only access the data with a court order. There are changes afoot to change the EU law, to make the Americans more responsible for their actions - holding the cloud providers liable for "leaking" the data would be a good start!
_________________ "Do you know what this is? Hmm? No, I can see you do not. You have that vacant look in your eyes, which says hold my head to your ear, you will hear the sea!" - Londo Molari
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:15 am |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Isn't "Twitter Privacy" an Oxymoron
I dont tweet but always assumed it was the IT equivalent of standing on a roof top with a megaphone shouting about your own pet hates / likes / pecadillos
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:56 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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Completely agree with both comments which is why I never use Twitter. I am, simply, not a twit!
_________________ He fights for the users.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:19 pm |
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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Pretty much thought that would be the case. I realize nothing on the internet is "private", but this struck me as a somewhat bold and blatant move. Clearly everyone's first retort is how they don't publish anything on the internet that they don't mind people knowing. But how is a person to know what years of daily comments on a variety of things will tell somebody who's intent on building information about them? Long sentence I know, but I've had a few glasses of wine 
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:16 pm |
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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And with the sun barely over the yardarm! I have generally been very circumspect about what I post online. If someone really wants to collate the tens of thousands of idle twitting I've been responsible for in order to build some coherent picture of me and my personality, so be it. I guess I could delete my tweets, or close my account, but the information will probably still be there to mined. I worry that the tech savvy among us realise the possibilities, and make allowances for being spied on, but most of the population blithely spill their lives into Facebook without a second thought. Actually, I don't worry about it at all. More fool them. 
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:40 pm |
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james016
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 5:52 pm Posts: 1899
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I kind of feel sorry for the people who end up having to read all of the nonsense on FB and Twitter as part of their job. Their brains will be mush.
_________________ My Flickr PageNow with added ball and chain.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:13 pm |
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leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 pm Posts: 5071 Location: Manchester
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It isn't a coincidence, I happen to agree with the government, as soon as they start encroaching on my legal rights, that's when I'll kick up a fuss. Seeing as I don't smash up bus stops or incite looting, I have nothing to hide, look at me all you want, I'm boring. Please keep an eye on those "interesting" people over there selling cocaine to teenagers.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:19 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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I can imagine the next headline: "US Agents take own lives in preference to dealing with the banality that is Twitter"
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:10 pm |
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