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Author:  pcernie [ Tue May 18, 2010 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

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regulator Ofcom has been working on the details for the controversial file-sharing clampdown.

It is due to publish a code of conduct in the next few weeks.

It will detail how the procedure will work, explaining how a copyright infringement report is sent, how the appeals procedure will work and how disputes between rights holders and ISPs will play out.

It is expected that this will be introduced for a year and, after that the process will be reviewed.

If it is considered to be ineffective, technical measures such as limiting the speed of a individual's service or temporarily suspending them from the net could be brought into effect.

Initially the code will be limited to ISPs with around 400,000 subscribers but pirates hoping to evade detection by migrating to smaller ISPs or mobile broadband services will not be able to do so for long as all service providers will eventually be expected to take part in the notification process.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10121358.stm

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God save us... Though there was this:

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Ofcom would be scrapped and regulators stripped of policy-making responsibilities by a Tory government, David Cameron said today.

Singled out for criticism in a speech proposing cutbacks to the myriad quangos administering various policy areas, the communications regulator's successor should only have technical responsibilities such as awarding licences, Cameron said. Policy decisions would be taken by ministers, rather than an "unaccountable bureaucracy".

"With a Conservative Government, Ofcom as we know it will cease to exist. Its remit will be restricted to its narrow technical and enforcement roles," he told the Reform think tank in London.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/06/cameron_ofcom/

I'd like to see him held to that, so long as whatever happens afterwards isn't another sham like Ofcom :evil:

Thoughts on how this might turn out? Especially as we'll have a new broadband minister on the way and the Lib Dems want sections of the Digital Economy Act repealed :)

Author:  Angelic [ Wed May 19, 2010 12:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

I never thought i'd say it.

I like David Cameron now.

(Before this, I hated them all equally)

Author:  okenobi [ Wed May 19, 2010 6:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

Angelic wrote:
I never thought i'd say it.

I like David Cameron now.

(Before this, I hated them all equally)


Don't be naive. He's still the same guy.

This is certainly interesting though. I'll say that. I would very much like to break my addiction to P2P and although I don't do anything *I* personally have a moral or ethical problem with, some TV networks might disagree. Hopefully, I'm not a priority compared to people on movies and music 24/7 (and I know a few). In the meantime however, we'll just have to wait and see....

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed May 19, 2010 7:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

I avoid the movies and music because they are the contentious ones. I do not bother with games either, too much of a risk from trojans so stick to TV shows which invariably are not even shown here.

Author:  finlay666 [ Wed May 19, 2010 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

It's not sharing if you only take ;)

IIRC the laws state you have to have uploaded to be liable, otherwise you would be liable accessing any site with copyrighted content on it

Author:  pcernie [ Wed May 19, 2010 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

finlay666 wrote:
It's not sharing if you only take ;)

IIRC the laws state you have to have uploaded to be liable, otherwise you would be liable accessing any site with copyrighted content on it


Is 'seeding' considered uploading then? :?

Author:  finlay666 [ Wed May 19, 2010 10:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

pcernie wrote:
finlay666 wrote:
It's not sharing if you only take ;)

IIRC the laws state you have to have uploaded to be liable, otherwise you would be liable accessing any site with copyrighted content on it


Is 'seeding' considered uploading then? :?

I would say so as you are only uploading

Author:  pcernie [ Wed May 19, 2010 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

finlay666 wrote:
pcernie wrote:
finlay666 wrote:
It's not sharing if you only take ;)

IIRC the laws state you have to have uploaded to be liable, otherwise you would be liable accessing any site with copyrighted content on it


Is 'seeding' considered uploading then? :?

I would say so as you are only uploading


I was thinking along the lines of people who are seeding a file as they're downloading, isn't that how it goes?

Author:  finlay666 [ Wed May 19, 2010 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

pcernie wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of people who are seeding a file as they're downloading, isn't that how it goes?


yeah, that is file sharing and the whole concept of P2P file sharing, which is interesting as very few let you not upload, and those that do you usually get your speeds heavily limited as a result of being a leecher

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 20, 2010 12:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

Many private tracker sites have limits on the ratio of uploads and downloads. If you do not seed enough you can get blacklisted from the sites for leeching.

Author:  finlay666 [ Thu May 20, 2010 1:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

Amnesia10 wrote:
Many private tracker sites have limits on the ratio of uploads and downloads. If you do not seed enough you can get blacklisted from the sites for leeching.


Yep which is how it's a catch 22 unless you use the alternative methods ;)

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 20, 2010 4:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

Yes but there are also VPN networks for that. Pirate Bay have one.

Author:  okenobi [ Thu May 20, 2010 9:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

Not being funny, but how desperate do you have to be to set up a VPN to seed on private trackers??

Torrents are handy, but they're hardly life and death. Just give me a viable bloody alternative!

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 20, 2010 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

okenobi wrote:
Not being funny, but how desperate do you have to be to set up a VPN to seed on private trackers??

Torrents are handy, but they're hardly life and death. Just give me a viable bloody alternative!

It depends on how extreme the government get with the legislation. ;)

if they make it worth while I am sure that many more will switch to VPN and encrypt all their traffic which the security services has said would be bad for their ability to track terrorists.

Author:  saspro [ Fri May 21, 2010 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I'd completely forgotten Ofcom were looking at file-sharing

Amnesia10 wrote:
okenobi wrote:
Not being funny, but how desperate do you have to be to set up a VPN to seed on private trackers??

Torrents are handy, but they're hardly life and death. Just give me a viable bloody alternative!

It depends on how extreme the government get with the legislation. ;)

if they make it worth while I am sure that many more will switch to VPN and encrypt all their traffic which the security services has said would be bad for their ability to track terrorists.



A good few years ago I used to be a member of a private file sharing network. No bit-torrent, you just searched all the members & downloaded direct from them. Everything was encrypted & used VPN's to connect to the server.

With things like the tech behind Hamachi available it'll become very popular (as you could build it in to a client)

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