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Amnesia10
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:15 am |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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And now they become the prime target for anti-competitive rulings  First up, no Micro-USB charger despite agreeing to it, or maybe the anti-competitive contracts for customers 
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:22 am |
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Amnesia10
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I have retractable USB cables to charge my iPods and soon iPhone so do not need a charger. I just plug into a USB port somewhere.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:47 am |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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If Apple don't play ball with a microUSB connection for universal chargers soon I can see the European Commission getting rather upset, and we all know what happens when big companies upset the European Commission...
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:20 am |
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finlay666
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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That is not the point Apple signed an agreement with other phone manufacturers to phase out proprietary connections in favour of an industry standard (micro usb) to reduce the waste produced from chargers that were not cross compatible. This agreement came in this year. The iPhone 4 SHOULD have one. It doesn't. The point isn't that an existing Apple user has the kit already, it's that if you get a new NON APPLE phone after you don't have to fart about with a new charger as the existing one will work. Proprietary connections kill competition in hardware between companies, just look at what the iDock has done to the mp3 player market with companies such as iRiver, Sandisk, Archos and Sony with the proprietary marketplace, audio format and data connection. The MicroUSB could be added next to the port and work with either, not that it would raise the cost much... Absolutely. I think it's going to look even worse on them with their continued 'stretching' of the truth in the advertisements as well as the App store 'mishaps' with apps stealing personal data (they will love that one) and also with their favouritism with submissions.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:41 am |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Apple have already upset the ASA and OFT once, anyone remember "Sequence shortened and steps removed"?
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:50 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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 |  |  |  | finlay666 wrote: That is not the point Apple signed an agreement with other phone manufacturers to phase out proprietary connections in favour of an industry standard (micro usb) to reduce the waste produced from chargers that were not cross compatible. This agreement came in this year. The iPhone 4 SHOULD have one. It doesn't. The point isn't that an existing Apple user has the kit already, it's that if you get a new NON APPLE phone after you don't have to fart about with a new charger as the existing one will work. Proprietary connections kill competition in hardware between companies, just look at what the iDock has done to the mp3 player market with companies such as iRiver, Sandisk, Archos and Sony with the proprietary marketplace, audio format and data connection. The MicroUSB could be added next to the port and work with either, not that it would raise the cost much... Absolutely. I think it's going to look even worse on them with their continued 'stretching' of the truth in the advertisements as well as the App store 'mishaps' with apps stealing personal data (they will love that one) and also with their favouritism with submissions. |  |  |  |  |
I am not going top disagree. They signed up to it and should comply. It would mean that others could use my charger or I theres, or not buy one at all. I would however get a retractable microUSB-USB charger. All my devices are chargeable via USB.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:57 am |
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koli
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm Posts: 1171
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Can you please take you Apple sh|te from TMP meeting place? This should clearly by in the NEWS section. Why do you have wind people up with this crap? You are like a freaking Jehovas witnesses. Ipads and iphones first, the new operating system and now even apple related news? You Apple gayboys are freaking pathetic. 
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:34 am |
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jonlumb
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
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That's hilarious on the back of a thread where no person on the forum has posted a single positive comment about Apple.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:36 am |
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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You need to watch your insults. If you have a problem with a post or thread either flag it or send a PM to a mod or admin detailing your problem. Mark
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:39 am |
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koli
Doesn't have much of a life
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Insult is that people clearly feel like they can post anything anywhere as long as it is apple related. Now let's see you moving this into the news section, you're a mod so do something about it...
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:49 am |
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Fogmeister
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:35 pm Posts: 6580 Location: Getting there
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I guess that you didn't actually READ HIS POST! Did the words "flag it or send a PM" not mean anything to you?
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:52 am |
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Nick
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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Duly flagged. I don't have a problem with this thread at all, but it is in the wrong section and should really be moved. I do find your reaction very funny though Koli. As for the whole micro USB thing yeah of course they should introduce it but the iPhone 4 has probably been in development for much longer than 12 months. I'm sure any phone they design since signing the agreement will include the microUSB charging interface. And the sooner the better in my opinion - I had an old Motorola with the USB cable for charging and it was bloody fantastic, if you get caught short of power anywhere it doesn't matter - you can always find a USB cable to plug into a computer! Very handy indeed.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:59 am |
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Amnesia10
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Is this really news? That was why I posted it on the The Meeting Place. It is just a curious fact that Apple is worth more than Microsoft and Dell combined today. That could very easily change.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:04 am |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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Deflection. Nice. First of all you get the complete wrong end of the stick and then try to divert with an attempt become the forum overlord. I don't care where this thread is. I think now TMP is a perfect spot for it. I mean where else can we put an thread relating to overreactive wrong end of the stick rants? LMAO, this has put a smile on my face. 
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