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Author: | pcernie [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:52 pm ] | |||||||||
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-10631013 I post this here cos I know we've got a load of grads and potentials... |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vince Cable set to propose graduate tax |
Good idea. A) you not saddled with debt. B) the more university helps you earn, the more you pay. The only issues I can see are: A) what about graduates who emigrate? B) it does nothing to put off the kind of student who wants to sit and doss around all day from going to uni. |
Author: | forquare1 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vince Cable set to propose graduate tax |
As long as I don't get hit by it, I don't care. I've already racked up >£20,000 of debt... |
Author: | Angelic [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:11 am ] |
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Stupid idea - so many students are at uni for a good time rather than to learn. |
Author: | veato [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:41 am ] | |||||||||
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I thought that's how the system currently worked. The more I earn the more I pay back. I can see this on my payslip for example when I get a payrise or do some overtime. |
Author: | big_D [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:19 am ] | |||||||||
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Maybe it will make them think twice? |
Author: | hifidelity2 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vince Cable set to propose graduate tax |
Personally I am all in favour of this Provide a good grant to ALL students Advise them that they will be taxed at x% extra when they hit the top rate of tax (So at the moment when they hit the 40% band a graduate would pay say 45%) The advantage of using the top rate of tax is that it would still allow people to go to uni to do subjects that maybe worthwhile but not paid very well Yes if someone emigrates then you loose the money. Of course if they come back then it starts up again |
Author: | adidan [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:57 am ] | |||||||||
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In my experience it's to learn and have a good time. Mind you I went to a good University, not one that was built in a supermarket offering degrees in how to wipe your own ass. |
Author: | finlay666 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:58 am ] | |||||||||
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B) And I imagine as a result the uni gets more money as a roll on effect for issues: A) No idea, I don't know what they do to current students who emigrate B) Of course, but hopefully they will be discouraged from going or unis will get tighter on slackers I went to uni to learn programming and to learn how to learn efffectively |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vince Cable set to propose graduate tax |
What a balls up. If they had not tampered with the higher education system this would all be irrelevant. The means tested grants worked for decades, free university education worked for the country as as whole and they interfered, because they could. Now we have Student loans companies who are inept at providing funds on time, and the whole system sets one generation of students with debts against those with a higher tax liability against those who got it all free. ![]() |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:26 am ] |
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I graduated with £20k worth of debt. Had the fees been uncapped, this could have potentially risen to £100k. That't not something you could pay off straight away and could cripple you financially for a long time. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:02 am ] | |||||||||
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And in the costs of renting or buying a home in a property bubble and having to make larger pension contributions because of lousy returns and longer life expectancy. Overall living standards are going to fall for a generation. |
Author: | phantombudgie [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:03 am ] |
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I get the feeling that the total amount paid back will be far more than with the current system. From what he says this higher rate will not go away once you have paid back the £3000 (or £20,000 or whatever the new fees will be). You are being subjected to a permanent tax rise in a new and interesting fashion. And don't tell me they will make sure all that extra cash will go to the university ![]() As for two year degrees, why are they trying to make degrees even more worthless? What a joke! Some students work themselves to death with only 3 years to learn the stuff (engineering and science, at least). I can only hope the two year degrees will be the ones in wallpaper design etc. |
Author: | finlay666 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:32 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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As in the amount of money you owe is fixed currently, the more you earn the quicker it's paid off currently New scheme is a flexible amount so the more you earn the more you pay back and you pay it for a period of time (probably until you die) |
Author: | phantombudgie [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vince Cable set to propose graduate tax |
Indeed. You are not allowed to keep all the money you make until you have purchased a lordship. |
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