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Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:23 pm ]
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Just an interesting article, what with summer due to start any day now, once this rain's cleared...

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Are Designer Sunglasses Worth the Price?
Maybe not, writes Brett Arends. For starters, most shades are made by the same company. Here's what you need to know before buying.
By BRETT ARENDS


Are you in the market for a new pair of designer sunglasses this summer?

It's the season for it, and you can spend hundreds of dollars on your next pair of shades. Some Prada and Bulgari pairs will run you nearly $500, and that's if you don't need prescription lenses. Even more moderate design labels like Ray-Ban or REVO can cost a couple of hundred bucks.

Designer shades are big business, even in this economy. I keep hearing about the new age of frugality, but I'm not seeing much of it at the mall. Sunglass Hut's same-store sales in the U.S. rose 10.8% in the first quarter, pretty much erasing the slump in early 2009.

But are these expensive brands worth it? How much better are they, really, than the $25 pairs you can get in your local pharmacy?

Before you spend big money on your next pair of designer shades, here are six things you should know.

1. Most sunglasses are made by the same company. Do you prefer the "quality" of Ray-Ban to Oakley? Do you think Bulgari is better than Dolce & Gabbana, or Salvatore Ferragamo is better than Prada? Wake up. They're all made by one company, Italian manufacturer Luxottica–one of the biggest consumer companies that consumers have never heard of. Luxottica also makes sunglasses branded Burberry, Chanel, Polo Ralph Lauren, Paul Smith, Stella McCartney, Tiffany, Versace, Vogue, Persol, Miu Miu, Tory Burch and Donna Karan.

"We manufacture about 70% of those brands in our factories in Italy, and the balance in America and China," says Luxottica spokesman Luca Biondolillo. "We do the design, the manufacturing, and the marketing," he adds. The company makes most of those brands under license, working closely with designers at the relevant fashion houses. But it owns several brands itself, including Ray-Ban, Oakley, Oliver Peoples and REVO.

2. In many cases, the same company is also selling you the glasses. Luxottica also owns LensCrafters, Pearle Vision and Sunglass Hut. This is extreme vertical integration. The eye doctor telling you that you need a new pair of glasses, the sales people helping you choose them and the people who design and make the glasses all work for the same company. Make of it what you will. But if your financial advisor was actually employed by the mutual fund company that he recommended for your portfolio, you'd at least want to know.

3. The markups are as big as they seem. Whenever I have bought a new pair of regular eyeglasses, I have always reflected on how little I seem to get for my money. I can sort of understand why lenses are so expensive, as the material has to be made and ground precisely. But $100 or $200 for frames? These are bits of metal or molded plastic. Once I bought tiny slivers of hollow titanium that weighed considerably less than the bills I was handing over.

The cost of a new pair of glasses will of course reflect materials and labor. But the price will also reflect brand values and marketing–and how much consumers will pay. Luxottica says it makes a gross profit of 64 cents on each dollar of sales. Even after deducting sales and advertising costs, overhead and brand licensing royalties it's still making 52 cents. That's some margin.

While the company's return on equity has fallen since the global economy turned down, last year it still managed a respectable 11%, according to data from FactSet Research Systems. A few years ago that number was as high as 20%. And investors are confident on the company's future. The stock has jumped from $13 to $25 from last year's market lows. It's about 20 times likely earnings, an optimistic rating.

4. Those expensive sunglasses may not be any better for your eyes, either. "Three hundred dollar sunglasses don't do anything better than $100 sunglasses, except maybe look better and have a brand name associated with them" says Dr. Jay Duker, chair of ophthalmology at Tufts Medical Center.

"A significant chunk of what you pay for isn't the quality of the lenses, it's the brand," adds Dr. Reza Dana, director of the cornea and refractive surgery service at Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary. He notes that making lenses that offer protection against harmful ultra-violet rays "isn't very expensive technology." And while spending more may get you better quality frames, here, too, there are laws of diminishing returns.

For about $40, says Dr. Duker, you can get a pair that offers 100% protection against ultra-violet rays. If you spend maybe $70 you should be able to get a pair with decent quality polarizing lenses that cut out glare. Beyond that, the medical benefits tail off pretty fast.

5. An inexpensive pair of sunglasses from the pharmacy isn't the worst thing in the world. They may be fine for most people in most circumstances, Dr. Dana says. "The main reason people wear sunglasses is to block out (regular) white light," he says, "and from that point of view, cheaper glasses work pretty well." And they will probably block most UV rays, even if not all of them, he adds.

6. Those fancy glasses are really costing you a lot more than you realize. If you make your shades last for many years, that would be one thing. But who does that? The people who want designer items want the latest fashion each year. And then there are the pairs that get lost. Scratched at the beach. And sat on. Personally, I have come to consider sunglasses a disposable item, and I suspect I am not alone.

Over a lifetime these things add up. Indeed they compound. Even at, say, 4% interest, $200 a year over 50 years adds up to $30,000.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 52610.html

Author:  belchingmatt [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:30 pm ]
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A cheap pair of sunnies lasted me 5+ years, so I decided as I can look after them that it doesn't matter too much if I get a designer pair.

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Over a lifetime these things add up. Indeed they compound. Even at, say, 4% interest, $200 a year over 50 years adds up to $30,000.


Well if you can't look after something.......

Author:  JJW009 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:35 pm ]
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belchingmatt wrote:
A cheap pair of sunnies lasted me 5+ years, so I decided as I can look after them that it doesn't matter too much if I get a designer pair.

Being the fashion victim that I am (...not!) I was recently reading advice on mens fashion for the over 40s.

They stressed very strongly that it is a crime worse than genocide to wear last year's sunglasses. Even if they look exactly the same to you, anyone in "the know" will ridicule you and you'll never get a hot date.

Author:  belchingmatt [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:40 pm ]
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What is this Fashion you speak of. :P

Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:46 pm ]
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What struck me was the fact that there's apparently one Italian firm who's making all the money in selling you expensive dark glasses.
I haven't worn sun glasses since I had a prescription pair back in my first year of Uni, which was... some years ago.
Interestingly, when I went for my new frames, the optician tried selling me a pair of prescription sunnies.
When he heard that I do a lot of photography, he totally changed his tune and told me they'd be a massive hassle and counter-productive to shooting.
So I don't wear sun glasses.

Author:  finlay666 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:44 pm ]
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I have a pair of oakleys for driving in, polarised Iridium lenses, I think they are great

Last pair I had were Animal ones and cost £60 but weren't polarised, they lasted goodness knows how long (I think 8 years or so) and I only got the new ones (a bit more at £67 as they are entry level frames) as they were no good in sunny weather when driving due to glare

Paying for the brand... more than likely but it was a price I was willing to pay, no way would I get the £400+ unless they had adjustable strength xray vision

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:28 am ]
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I could see the justification in paying extra for a pair of sunglasses from a company that's in the business of making optics and not much else (say Oakley or RayBan). They might at least have some skill in it. I never could see the point of buying a pair of sunglasses from a company/person whose skill is purely in making clothes. How does that work? What do they know about it? They're no more likely to make a good pair of sunglasses than Heinz or Cadbury are.

Works in other areas too of course. I'll always buy something from a company that specialises in the product I'm buying over something that has the name of someone who is big in a completely unrelated field on it.

Jon

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:41 am ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
I could see the justification in paying extra for a pair of sunglasses from a company that's in the business of making optics and not much else (say Oakley or RayBan). They might at least have some skill in it. I never could see the point of buying a pair of sunglasses from a company/person whose skill is purely in making clothes. How does that work? What do they know about it? They're no more likely to make a good pair of sunglasses than Heinz or Cadbury are.

Works in other areas too of course. I'll always buy something from a company that specialises in the product I'm buying over something that has the name of someone who is big in a completely unrelated field on it.

Jon

Yes but the actual manufacture of the lenses can be left to opticians. In that respect it is only the design and manufacture of the frames that is an issue. If it is a top brand they will not necessarily want a crappy manufacturer to build the frames and lenses because the returns would damage the brand. In these cases brand expansion is only valid in a few examples. For example Roll Royce sunglasses would be expected to demand a higher price than Heinz sunglasses.

Author:  jonlumb [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:03 am ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
I could see the justification in paying extra for a pair of sunglasses from a company that's in the business of making optics and not much else (say Oakley or RayBan). They might at least have some skill in it. I never could see the point of buying a pair of sunglasses from a company/person whose skill is purely in making clothes. How does that work? What do they know about it? They're no more likely to make a good pair of sunglasses than Heinz or Cadbury are.

Works in other areas too of course. I'll always buy something from a company that specialises in the product I'm buying over something that has the name of someone who is big in a completely unrelated field on it.

Jon


Um, did you read any of the article? The whole point is that they are pretty much all made by the one company.

Author:  HeatherKay [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:31 am ]
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I don't get the whole designer thing.

I have a pair of prescription sunnies I got free with my last set of specs. I use them when driving and mooching in sunlight, but like most specs they're a right royal pain in the butt for sensible photography.

Author:  big_D [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:37 am ]
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I don't understand these brands today.

Sunglasses? Ray-Ban is the only name that says anything to me. I'd never touch D&G or Prada for sunglasses, or jeans or perfume for that matter. A handbag? Maybe, if I had the money to waste.

It is the same as jeans, the only brands I'd buy are those that have a good history in jeans - Wrangler, Levis and Lee - when I don't buy C&A own brand, which cost about 20€...

Why should I buy sunglasses from a company that makes perfume, jeans, shoes or motorcycles?

I wouldn't buy a computer from Ferrari and I wouldn't buy a car from Asus, those aren't their areas of speciality. I do the same for most other things I buy. I'll either buy no-name or buy a brand that has historically made that product, and made it well...

Author:  veato [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:57 am ]
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I dont think it matters who makes them. Surely you're paying for the brand name and the design if you go the designer route arent you?

I wouldnt expect Ralph Lauren to personally knit my sweater but I'd like to think he had a hand in designing it.

Author:  saspro [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:19 am ]
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I recently bought myself a pair of RayBans. Nice carbon fiber frames & the "good" polarising lenses.
Cost me £184 but they should last a while.
They're better than most of the other sunglasses I've owned (more comfy, better antiglare etc) although I won't be replacing them for a while.
My last pair of Oakleys lasted a few years whereas my $20 pair of no-names from NY fell apart after a couple of months.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:25 am ]
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I will admit that when I saw the cheap designer sunglasses offer on moneysavingsexpert.co.uk I end up buying some Rayban's. I did not rate any of the other brands worth considering. I would only really consider Oakley's for cycling glasses. It is a specialism thing.

Author:  belchingmatt [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:31 am ]
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finlay666 wrote:
I have a pair of oakleys for driving in, polarised Iridium lenses, I think they are great


I have polarised lenses, mandatory equipment when you work on a dive boat in Queensland, and from all the pairs I tried Oakley had the best lenses and frames for my purposes at the time.

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