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Author:  koli [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:42 pm ]
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and the hunter is becoming the prey.

Samsung UK: Frustrated with iPhone 4? We'll give you a free Galaxy S
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-u ... e-galaxy-s
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/iPhone-4- ... 33926.html

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Author:  ProfessorF [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:43 pm ]
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Wow, that smells of desperation on Samsung's part.
My last phone was a Samsung - never, eveer again, even if you were giving it away would I go back to them. Worst interface I think I've ever had the misfortune to use.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:48 pm ]
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If their phones were half as good as their tellys nobody would even be talking about the iPhone. Sadly, they aren't.

Author:  finlay666 [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:06 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
If their phones were half as good as their tellys nobody would even be talking about the iPhone. Sadly, they aren't.


The Galaxy S is actually very good

Engadget rate it on par with the iPhone (depending on if you like the iPhone or not, plenty don't)

I've had one for 2 weeks now and love it, it's quick and with a 3rd party launcher is great

Only gripe..... Samsung's need to add their own skin, it's not WM6.1 FFS

Author:  james016 [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:54 pm ]
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My wife got a Samsung Monte phone. It is horrendous to use. A touch screen that uses a T9 keyboard FFS. She has gone back to her Sony Ericsson.

Author:  finlay666 [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:22 pm ]
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james016 wrote:
My wife got a Samsung Monte phone. It is horrendous to use. A touch screen that uses a T9 keyboard FFS. She has gone back to her Sony Ericsson.


Monte != Galaxy S

The Galaxy S is the flagship device, the Monte is far from it. :roll:

Author:  koli [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:23 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
Wow, that smells of desperation on Samsung's part

Interesting take and I cant help to wonder: What did you make of "I'm a mac - I'm a pc" campaign?

Author:  forquare1 [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:56 pm ]
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This is all well and good, and a great campaign. However, switching OS means that you loose all of your apps, and the three or four people who I know with iPhone 4s have said they haven't had dropped calls and that a simple, free, cover will sort any future problems out.
One of the owners reckons he's spent £50 or more on apps for his iPhones, he's not about to jump ship when he uses the telephoning capability less than the apps he's paid for.

koli wrote:
Interesting take and I cant help to wonder: What did you make of "I'm a mac - I'm a pc" campaign?

I thought it was funny, especially when Vista came out and friends were experiencing similar problems to those found in the videos...As a serous ad campaign I thought it sucked, but no less than most adverts around...

Author:  Nick [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:03 pm ]
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Yeah I thought they were really funny - my favourite one was the security one were the guard interupted every time Mac spoke.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:59 pm ]
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koli wrote:
Interesting take and I cant help to wonder: What did you make of "I'm a mac - I'm a pc" campaign?


It was a mixed bag. Some were successful, other's fell short of the mark.
To turn it on it's head, if Apple were saying 'Because we think Samsung's terrible, we'll give you an iPhone for free', what would you be saying about Apple?

Author:  finlay666 [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:40 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
koli wrote:
Interesting take and I cant help to wonder: What did you make of "I'm a mac - I'm a pc" campaign?


It was a mixed bag. Some were successful, other's fell short of the mark.
To turn it on it's head, if Apple were saying 'Because we think Samsung's terrible, we'll give you an iPhone for free', what would you be saying about Apple?


They don't know how to get good, cheap PR against their competition and targeted it wrongly

The "Because we think Microsoft's terrible, we'll give you a MacBook for free" would be much better ;)

Author:  koli [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:12 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
koli wrote:
Interesting take and I cant help to wonder: What did you make of "I'm a mac - I'm a pc" campaign?

It was a mixed bag. Some were successful, other's fell short of the mark.

But would you brand it "desperate"? My point is that they are same as they use competitors weaknesses and they point them out to general public.

ProfessorF wrote:
To turn it on it's head, if Apple were saying 'Because we think Samsung's terrible, we'll give you an iPhone for free', what would you be saying about Apple?

I don't know what I would say, but I wouldn't say that Apple is desperate. Very aggressive yes, but not desperate.

However I think that Jobs dragging other phone manufacturers into the antennagate is extremely desperate. Especially showing some videos of other phone's dropping signal without it being confirmed by some independent reviewers. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Apple was using some signal-distorting device to make sure those phones will drop the signal :lol:
After all, honesty is not Apple's strength it seems...

Regarding Samsung's campaigned, it is clearly a publicity stunt. You can imagine how media will love to report on this "Swap your iphone for galaxy" offer. I don't think Samsung expects many people taking them on that.
Also, Samsung is not saying iphone is rubbish, it only reminds that there are issues with it.

I very much like the poster with signal bars instead of "l". I find it very funny. Very subtle but also obvious...

Author:  ProfessorF [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:36 pm ]
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koli wrote:
I don't know what I would say, but I wouldn't say that Apple is desperate. Very aggressive yes, but not desperate.

However I think that Jobs dragging other phone manufacturers into the antennagate is extremely desperate. Especially showing some videos of other phone's dropping signal without it being confirmed by some independent reviewers. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Apple was using some signal-distorting device to make sure those phones will drop the signal :lol:


Again, whether or not the bars drop doesn't terribly matter, the only issue for the user is if the phone then goes on to drop the call.

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After all, honesty is not Apple's strength it seems...

Hey, that's advertising.
I doubt if there's many companies who've used the unadulterated truth to sell things.
Dare I mention Astroturfing and a major OS manufacturer?

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Regarding Samsung's campaigned, it is clearly a publicity stunt. You can imagine how media will love to report on this "Swap your iphone for galaxy" offer. I don't think Samsung expects many people taking them on that.
Also, Samsung is not saying iphone is rubbish, it only reminds that there are issues with it.


I guess time will tell on that score, but your post is the first time it's been brought to my attention.

This blog, by a fella who makes his living in this sort of field, is an interesting read - http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/

AntennaSys wrote:
What about the Consumer Reports "Duct Tape" fix? Yep, it will help. Any insulator over the "gap" area of the antenna is going to help in direct proportion to its thickness. I think Consumer Reports was going for style points in the selection of Duct Tape. Nice move - they sure dominated the news cycle.

But, hey, Consumer Reports guys: you don't do radiated tests in a shield room. That's like measuring the light output of a desk lamp in a house of mirrors. It's amateur hour. Either you didn't really explain your experimental technique fully in your video and text on your website, or perhaps you did and it really stinks. In either case, we end up agreeing with each other, so let's not dwell on that too much.

Author:  koli [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:57 pm ]
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AntennaSys wrote:
Any insulator over the "gap" area of the antenna is going to help in direct proportion to its thickness.

If that is true then antenna f**k up is even worse then I thought considering that apple imagined it would be a good idea to have people touching the antenna directly.
Who had apple working on that antenna, some gap year students who are yet to go through that bit of syllabus at uni?
Maybe apple should give him a job, he obviously knows more than entire apple's aerial experts team with $100m antenna test centre facility at their disposal :lol:

Author:  ProfessorF [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:13 pm ]
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What I thought was interesting was the finding that:

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4) The iPhone 4 data rates still beat the iPhone 3G data rates under all grip conditions.

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