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Google buys Nest for $3.2bn

Interesting. Nest make essentially two products, an internet connected smoke and CO2 alarm and a 'smart' thermostat. You can't get the latter in the UK yet as our heating systems are incompatible, but the alarms can be got from Amazon and look quite cool. The company was set up by a former Apple designer, who worked on the early years of the iPod and the initial iPhone prototypes.

But.. why? what's the crossover here? Simply that the devices connect to the internet? Are people's smoke alarms going to run adverts now?

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Monitoring people as they go in and out of their homes and so target ads according to their daily routine?

I would have thought that Apple might make a better fit. Though since these devices can be monitored by smartphones that is probably the reasoning behind the deal.

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Google is also in other businesses like robots and self driving cars that aren't directly about advertising. Smartgrids that allow household items like heating and fridges to alter their power consumption according to real-time energy flows around the nations electricals are supposed to be a big money spinner of the future. Having useful devices for one end of that chain and lots of cloud capacity at the other puts them in a decent position to control (or have a say in) the all important protocol stack that sits between them.


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A case of owning a set of patents for what's potentially mainstream tech? Other than that....

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A case of owning a set of patents for what's potentially mainstream tech? Other than that....

I don't think Nest have many patents. There's nothing inherently new or unusual about the Protect or Learning Thermostat. OK, in the US that doesn't stop you filing patents against them but there's certainly nothing there that would be worth $3.2bn.

I can only assume that the idea of gaining access to their telemetry data is what Google are paying for. Nest are very strident about them not being absorbed into Google, but each strident thing they say seems to have a caveat following it. I actually registered an account on their service because I was considering getting a Nest Thermostat when they adapt it for the UK. There's nothing in the account right now, obviously, but I do notice there's no way to delete the account from their servers, as far as I can tell.


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Designer? The guy behind Nest is the guy behind Thema iPod and iPhone designs...

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Designer? The guy behind Nest is the guy behind Thema iPod and iPhone designs...

True, but you'd think if he wanted to carry on designing stuff for other people, he'd have stayed at Apple.


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What Google Really Gets Out of Buying Nest for $3.2 Billion
http://www.wired.com/business/2014/01/googles-3-billion-nest-buy-finally-make-internet-things-real-us/

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While shoring up its hardware business is likely a key motivation for its acquisition of Nest, Google still makes nearly all its money based on an oft-repeated maxim (though not by Google): You are the product.

The value Google sells its customers — that is, advertisers — lies in its peerless understanding of our online behavior.

Google knows what we search for, so it can sell advertisers the eyeballs of someone who has already stated some interest in what they sell. Google reads our Gmail — anonymized, of course — and can target us with ads based on what we appear to be discussing in our private conversations.

One area of human behavior Google has yet to colonize as successfully is what we do when we’re not directly interacting with a screen, whether on a PC or mobile device. That in theory changes with Nest.

In answer to the question of whether Nest will share its customer data with Google, the company reportedly said it’s standing by its existing privacy policy, which “clearly limits the use of customer information to providing and improving Nest’s products and services.”

But even anonymized user data would give Google incredible new insights into our behavior in the physical world that its vast roster of very smart people could figure out how to leverage in order to advance its business.

Perhaps Google could pair our movements with how we shop — say, using Google’s own same-day delivery service. Or some choice we make offline that compels us to perform a particular search.

This may sound creepy, but much like using Google for search, it could become the price of admission for participation in the internet of things. Every choice we make using connected devices leaves a trace. And no one is better than Google at figuring out how to turn those traces into dollars.

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What Google Really Gets Out of Buying Nest for $3.2 Billion
http://www.wired.com/business/2014/01/googles-3-billion-nest-buy-finally-make-internet-things-real-us/

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Perhaps Google could pair our movements with how we shop — say, using Google’s own same-day delivery service. Or some choice we make offline that compels us to perform a particular search.

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And that's why I don't trust Google. ;)

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Luckily(?) the Nest is not compatible with European heating systems.

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