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I use Aperture on the Mac and Lightroom on the PC. To be honest, I much prefer Lightroom. I'm not a big Adobe fan, but I find LR is easier to use and is more flexible. It probably helps that LR loads in around 3 seconds and Aperture takes around a minute.

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so I can't be renting LightRoom.
At the moment you can still download a full-featured version of Lr without needing to pay anything for the Creative Cloud bollocks.
'at the moment'.
When/if that happens, it'll be an issue for me, as there's no way I'm going to store all my images in The Cloud.
But there's no need for me to bother about that yet, so I won't. (8+)

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You don't have to store your images in the cloud, it is an option. The program still runs locally and can access the local drive. Like iCloud etc. it offers the storage of the files in the cloud to make team work easier, but it is not necessary.

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You don't have to store your images in the cloud, it is an option. The program still runs locally and can access the local drive. Like iCloud etc. it offers the storage of the files in the cloud to make team work easier, but it is not necessary.
Yeah, I didn't really get across what I wanted to say very well.
I just mean that I don't want to have to pay a subscription for a service (Creative Cloud) that I wouldn't ever use.
Still, no need to go there yet.

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Creative Cloud only gives you 20GB of space - enough for a few final projects with your final edits, but you'll still want local storage. Handy to have if you're working in different places all the same.

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In fairness, the CC Photography bundle is the cheapest way to get hold of Photoshop - it's about half the price of the single app subscription (about £8 pcm against £17 IIRC), Lightroom is essentially being thrown in as a freebie.

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You don't have to store your images in the cloud, it is an option. The program still runs locally and can access the local drive. Like iCloud etc. it offers the storage of the files in the cloud to make team work easier, but it is not necessary.
Yeah, I didn't really get across what I wanted to say very well.
I just mean that I don't want to have to pay a subscription for a service (Creative Cloud) that I wouldn't ever use.


The CC subscription isn’t for the cloud based storage - it’s for Adobe’s rentware model. Basically, you’re paying to use the application(s) you’re using month by month. The use of the word “cloud” is a misnomer - you can store stuff there, if you want to, but the whole thrust of the CC deal is that the applications are “in the cloud” for you to download as you need them. This is certainly true if you are going for the whole full-fat option.

At the moment, I’ve resisted anything CC wise. However, if it seems that moving from Aperture to Lightroom is the best option for me, I may well plump for the photographer’s option and carry on with Photoshop CC as before.

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As it doesn't appear to have been mentioned, some of you might be interested in this on ArsTechnica:

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Apple to cease development, support of pro photo app Aperture [Updated]
Company asks users to transition to new Photos app or "move to Adobe Lightroom."

by Sam Machkovech - June 27 2014, 6:25pm BST

At this year's Worldwide Developers Conference, Apple gave fans a brief look at the new Photos app coming to both iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite. While the reveal was long enough to showcase a particularly robust phone photo solution, it left Apple fans wondering how the company's professional grade offering on desktops and laptops, Aperture, might fit into updated services such as iCloud photo storage, if at all.

Today, after weeks of speculation—fueled particularly by beta versions of Yosemite not supporting Aperture—Apple confirmed that it will cease development of Aperture upon the launch of the next OS X this fall the new Photos app early next year.

Apple offered a statement directly to Ars Technica: "With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere, there will be no new development of Aperture. When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS X.” In addition to telling users that iPhoto will be discontinued and rolled into the new Photos app, Apple also confirmed to Ars Technica that Aperture will be updated to ensure Yosemite compatibility, but users shouldn't expect any further development or updates beyond that.

The little we've seen of the new Photos app included more editing sliders and options than the default app has included in the past. However, Apple didn't take today as an opportunity to announce more Aperture-like features coming to Photos; rather, it told TechCrunch that its developers are "working with Adobe to work on a transitionary workflow for users moving to Lightroom," which may be indicative of the impending app's lack of robust, professional-grade options.

Apple confirmed that development of its other professional media editing offerings, including Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro, will not be impacted in any way. To that point, Apple announced updates to Mainstage, Final Cut Pro X, Motion, and Compressor today.

Update: When asked about what Aperture-like features users can expect from the new Photos app, an Apple representative mentioned plans for professional-grade features such as image search, editing, effects, and most notably, third-party extensibility. The representative also clarified the timeframe when Aperture development will end, along with an announcement about its other Pro app offerings receiving updates today; those details have been updated in the text above.

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