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JJW009
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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Sorry, didn't see you there. I don't come in here often! My thread on much the same monitor, which I'm still looking at: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=741I still hold the same opinion. The colour seriously sucks, but I just can't justify spending the serious cash required to get a better monitor and I LOVE the resolution. I don't really game, and given my on-board graphics frame rates aren't something I'm concerned about. Full screen 720p anime looks good, provided you keep your head in the sweet spot. If you get too close then the colour varies from top to bottom with the angle, lol. Only thing is, after a few months it now appears to have shrunk. It looked big when I got it 
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Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:22 am |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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How could you run the old monitor in clone mode? It has a lower resolution...  LCDs always show blurry images, when they aren't run at their native resolution. If you have a 1920x1200 display and drive it at 1680x1050, it is no wonder that it looks blurred, compared to the old one running at its native resolution... 
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Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:02 am |
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Santacruz
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i set the new one to its native and the old to its native too, just on the old screen you had to move the mouse over to the edge of the screen to move the picture (so sorta like a scroll bar) so new 2048x1152 and the old 1680x1050 and compared them for blur
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Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:27 pm |
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Santacruz
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i take it were talking about the samsung  i found the viewing angles pretty good on mine and the gradients to be reasonably good its a really nice screen appart from the blur i run mine off dvi which its really sharp, but just to test i ran it through vga and it was terrible, text and screen was blurry but for the the size of it i love it to bits, its a fantasic size and res screen, hence why i want one exactly the same size ^^ im hoping the dell may do better favours for the blur with its 2ms response time
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Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:30 pm |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Okay, that makes a bit more sense. "Cloned" mode means that both monitors display the same image at the same resolution, that's why I thought the test was invalid.
Is the new monitor on a DVI or HDMI link or VGA? Again, VGA is a lousy way to drive a monitor over 1280x1024...
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Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:28 am |
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Santacruz
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its run through DVI ive got an rma on it through scan and its going back on monday for a refund, its actually giving me a bad head there is so much blur, distorts text in games i play so makes it harder to focus on reading it
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Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:30 pm |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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I'm running what I think is the same panel but without the DVI, hence it being only £150 because of the retarded DVI tax on screens "quite obviously used for entertainment" wtf retard tax people die kill die.
My sub-D connection has no flutter or blurriness at all, despite it controlling 2048 horizontal pixels from cheap on-board graphics. If anything, the problem is with 1 pixel text looking like spider writing because the dots are so tiny and accurate.
I did have problems with pixel alignment on a very old PC, but the graphics in that were from the 1990s. It actually had 50Hz mains modulation showing through, causing banding on a TFT monitor. Of course, it looked perfect on a CRT. TFTs were not invented when the Rage Pro came out!
I would prefer DVI, but on a side-by-side comparison on my Dell Ultra-Sharp I seriously could not tell the difference in sharpness, and I have pixel-perfect alignment on this setup. I think the colours were compromised a little on the Dell, but I can't compare on this screen because I don't have the option. Bloody stupid tax grumble grumble...
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:41 am |
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Santacruz
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well its gone back and im just waiting for the refund. only bad things i can find about the dell are backlight bleed on the bottom and bad viewing angles, anyone else got one of these or can recommend a good 23" 2049x1162 monitor with fast response times 
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Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:02 am |
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Santacruz
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been looking at the new LED backlight monitors and they look very impressive strung between the Samsung SyncMaster XL2370 http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/sa ... l?tag=alsoand LG Flatron W2486L http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/lg ... l?tag=alsosamsung supposedly faired better but i cant find any other retailer apart from amazon and i don't trust them for big things lol
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Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:05 am |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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I have the 24" version of the Samsung (1920x1080) at work and I have the older LG 2452T (1920x1200, not the nancy 1080 version) at home.
Both have a good quality image, but I'd always go for the 1920x1200 version of a monitor, especially above 20". The 1080p models are fine for watching television and film, but when sitting up close, the image is too large and too coarse compared to a 1920x1200 panel.
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Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:55 am |
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Santacruz
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i take it the 1920x1200 is the 16:10 version, theres some more research for me to do  after a friend tipped me off about the LED monitors they look pretty amazing, so im looking to get one that has a LED backlight
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Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:25 pm |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Yep, LED are pretty amazing, so are the prices. 
_________________ "Do you know what this is? Hmm? No, I can see you do not. You have that vacant look in your eyes, which says hold my head to your ear, you will hear the sea!" - Londo Molari
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:30 am |
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Santacruz
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hehe yea ok ive narrowed it down to 3 http://reviews.cnet.com/4504-4_7-0.html ... ag=compareim worried about the dell SP2309W because, the samsung with that res gave me bad eye strain, but im putting that down to the blur im worried about the dell G2410 because, its 5ms response time so im worried that might cause blur =z the samsung XL2370 & dell G2410 are both LED's tho and the dell had flawless image quality, but they are both very hard to get hold of on decent online sites, the dell SP2309W on the other hand is cheeper and easier for me to get, but will be hit or miss in the end; and the dell customer support is absolute crap from what ive heard with people who can barley talk english (BT was bad enough) so i either wait it out for the LED's to become more common or try my luck with the SP2309W
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