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Apple doesn’t permit virtualisation.


Boo to Apple. Although "doesn't permit" doesn't necessarily mean "can't do it". ;)


Apple doesn't permit but it is possible.

Snow Leopard Server will run virtualised out of the box with parallels.


Is dual booting an option? I'm sure that running Snow Loepard in a VM isn't going to be a quick... is it?

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Is dual booting an option? I'm sure that running Snow Loepard in a VM isn't going to be a quick... is it?


I've not dual booted two OS X installations myself, but I've read instructions.

I'd guess that virtualising Snow Leopard would be as responsive as virtualising Windows 7, and my Win 7 VM isn't slow :P


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Is dual booting an option? I'm sure that running Snow Loepard in a VM isn't going to be a quick... is it?


I've not dual booted two OS X installations myself, but I've read instructions.

I'd guess that virtualising Snow Leopard would be as responsive as virtualising Windows 7, and my Win 7 VM isn't slow :P


As I don't own a Mac I am more than happy to take your word for it. :D

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Just had a thought.

I have a MBP running Snow Leopard at the moment.

When Lion comes out I'll prob be buying an iMac.

They will both have the same iCloud settings (i.e. user name and password for my @me.com account).

Will I then be able to download and install Lion from the AppStore to my MBP as technically my me.com account will have purchased it?

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Just had a thought.

I have a MBP running Snow Leopard at the moment.

When Lion comes out I'll prob be buying an iMac.

They will both have the same iCloud settings (i.e. user name and password for my @me.com account).

Will I then be able to download and install Lion from the AppStore to my MBP as technically my me.com account will have purchased it?

I would think so. You are allowed 10 installs.

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Just had a look at the specs and apparently it needs a core2duo, will it definitely not run on a core duo? It seems apple are now leaving behind the intel users now as well as ppc.

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Just had a look at the specs and apparently it needs a core2duo, will it definitely not run on a core duo? It seems apple are now leaving behind the intel users now as well as ppc.

Their most recent CoreDuo is almost 6 years old though.

They started using C2D in late 2006.

I don't think it's too unreasonable to exclude them tbh. If you still have a CoreDuo then you're clearly not looking for performance and are happy with usage for basic internet, emails and word processing etc...

I'd imagine that a CoreDuo would struggle with things like iPhoto etc...

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Well my mate uses his MacBook pro for serious dtp and it's quicker than my g5 which still runs photoshop fine.

Iphoto must be a seriously bad piece of software in that case.

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Iphoto must be a seriously bad piece of software in that case.

I'm not stating it as a fact I just thought that with a 6+ year old cpu then expecting it not to work with the latest OS is not unreasonable. It probably would work with Lion but just be sluggish and Apple don't want to compromise on performance? I dunno.

I haven't actually tried using a Mac with a CoreDuo so I don't know how well it performs I was just speculating.

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Iphoto must be a seriously bad piece of software in that case.

I'm not stating it as a fact I just thought that with a 6+ year old cpu then expecting it not to work with the latest OS is not unreasonable. It probably would work with Lion but just be sluggish and Apple don't want to compromise on performance? I dunno.

I suspect it would probably work fine, Apple can be quite... arbitrary with their limitations sometimes. Unless it's some sort of 32/64 bit thing - was the coreduo a 32-bit only chip?

There is a piece of software, the name of which escapes me, that tweaks things to allow a Mac which is not technically supported to boot recent versions of of Mac OS. No reason not to wait and see what happens, or if necessary for that software to be updated.

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I'd imagine that a CoreDuo would struggle with things like iPhoto etc...


I still regularly virtualise Windows XP on my Core Duo MacBook while using OS X too...It's about as good as my 1998 machine running Windows 98...
In some basic operations (open folders, loading new tabs in Chrome), I feel my Core Duo matches or betters my 2009 Mac Pro...

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Unless it's some sort of 32/64 bit thing - was the coreduo a 32-bit only chip?


It was a 32-bit chip, which I always thought was odd that they used it...

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There is a piece of software, the name of which escapes me, that tweaks things to allow a Mac which is not technically supported to boot recent versions of of Mac OS.


Interesting...


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There is a piece of software, the name of which escapes me, that tweaks things to allow a Mac which is not technically supported to boot recent versions of of Mac OS. No reason not to wait and see what happens, or if necessary for that software to be updated.

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This one?
Seems to only do 10.4 though.
Not to say the more fringe elements might have some patch for the loader sorted though. Depends really on how 64-bit Lion really is, no?

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Didn't realise coreduos were six years old. Time flies! They can't have been sold for long, I thought I bought my g5 in 2005, may be wrong though.

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G5 was 2004 to 2006 so you would be correct :D

Here...

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