I'd say its a valid question. With his reputation of not accepting second best and a right stickler. This release of maps is a right FUBAR moment. Taking a very good app and replacing it with something that is quickly becoming a laughing stock in a major release is beyond belief.

It's pretty amateur.

Tom Tom have apparently passed the buck to Apple on the problems with the data.

I'm sorry, it just isn't. Not unless the person you're asking it to was a friend of Steve Jobs, or has some bizarre high tech imprint of his personality in a computer somewhere that they can ask the question to instead. Otherwise they would have no actual clue. The internet certainly doesn't know what Steve Jobs would have done, because half the time he did something the internet said he was wrong and would crash, burn and take Apple with him. Taking out floppy drives? Madness. Going to Intel? Never going to happen, he's too stubborn. The iPod Mini? It'll never sell... (Note, I said that last one)

Hardly anybody predicted accurately what Jobs did while he was alive. The tech press is a piled high with utterly inaccurate 'Apple is about to release...' stories they'd rather everyone forgot. Yet after he's died everyone suddenly knows what he would have done in a given situation? Wow, unfortunate none of those people did anything with that kind of knowledge in the past, or they could have done whatever he would have done before he did it and they would have made the metric ton of money instead.

What it actually is is people using an assumption based on the public image of a recently dead person as a stick to beat his (former) company with.Because almost certainly if the Apple Maps app had been brilliant, nobody would be asking that same question. And whether you like Apple or not, I think that's pretty disrespectful to a dead man.

The respectful thing to do is to move on and deal with the present as it is. Is the iPhone 6 a good product? Is it a lacklustre attemptto catch up with the market? Is the Apple maps app a steaming pile? These are valid questions. That one, isn't.

well we will have to agree to disagree on this point. If Apple maps had been brilliant of course nobody would be asking the question But its not and its generating more negative headlines by the minute. A map app that misplaces whole towns!
How to make a flagship App tarnish the image.

I have no problem with that. It's a particular point of narkiness for me, not just about Jobs but people in general. When (for example) a famous football manager dies or even leaves a club he's had success at, for ages afterwards every time his successors make any sort of mis-step people say 'ooohh, <the old fella> would never have done that.' I find it... unfair.


Yeah, I'm not arguing about the quality of Maps 6.0. That really would be a sticky wicket.

With the whole maps thing. There are several reports of people saying there is no information in such and such a place but when I've gone there I can see everything that was reported missing.

The only places where I have seen actual evidence of stuff going wrong is stuff like the A12 that was mentioned earlier.

I've been using the ios 6 maps for the past few months and had no problems at all with it.

As for whether it was the right decision to drop google maps. I reckon there was probably no choice. I reckon google had a lot to do with it. Also googles restriction on not being able to use their api for turn by turn navigation meant that the only option was to drop google if they wanted turn by turn.

The question of whether it should have been released. Well, if they didn't release the maps app then they would have had no maps app or no iPhone 5.

Tbh, I haven't seen much to back up the hundreds of claims. Yes I have followed instructions to see massive errors. And no I haven't seen the errors.

Best so far. Try finding Luton.

Here it is...

Is that not where it's supposed to be?

two friends sitting next to each other inputting the same search terms getting different results with Newport Wales showing Isle of wight or somewhere in pembrokeshire national park.

Having said that I have now found another Luton... Right next to Blackpool... Just to the south of Torbay

You see, you downloaded the Londoner version of Maps...

If only there were great, free 3rd party map applications out there.

If only Apple didn't rip the leading map provider from their devices? This wasn't a decision that benefits iPhone users at all, it's pure corporate politics.

Well when I enter it appears just outside Teignmouth in Devon. Though if I enter Luton Airport it finds it in the right area. Weird because now less than a few minutes later it finds the correct location. It must be something to do with where you start from. If I find Luton Airport then it finds Luton easily. Though if I start away from Luton it gives me a field in Devon.