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Prices are up

iPhone 5 - 16GB/£449 32GB/£599 64GB/£699 (all unlocked price)
(For comparison, a 16GB S3 is about £480)



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What's this talk of 'international' iPhone 5?
Sorry to be asking any dumb questions, but I've been really busy with work the past couple of days and I've not had any time to properly catch up on all the news.

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What will be interesting to see is if the phone providers bump up their 4G phone package's data allowance in line with the new 4G speed capabilities. After all, it's pointless being able to download stuff much, much faster if you still have the same stingy allowances per month.
Surely, they've got to start thinking of providing truly unlimited data (with a realistic fair-use clause, if any), or at least a decent amount so that you can download a few movies or streaming TV every week. Otherwise, I can't see the point of 4G to be honest - it's all just theory if you can't actually use it to its full potential without getting a hefty data bill at the end of each month for going over your tiny allowance.

Agreed. One of the US carriers is actually advertising 'unlimited' 4G data but I assume there is a data cap of some sort in 'not taking the piss' terms. But if you actually are downloading at 100Mb/s, a gig cap isn't going to last you very long at all.

I think it depends if the carriers are going to use this as a play to get into the 'home' broadband market. LTE is actually a viable alternative even to cable or FTTC broadband - maybe not for the hardcore multiplayer gaming crowd but for everyone else - and if the carriers decide to start selling what are effectively 'home mifis' to replace Virgin or BT entirely, they're going to have to offer similar data caps to people's current home broadband.


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Might be of interest to some - 4s vs 5 Camera test

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Also bare in mind that the iPhone 5 (as sold in Europe and Asia - I'm not sure about some of the US versions) only supports certain LTE (4G) frequency bands. The only overlap between the bands it supports, and the frequencies that will be used for LTE comms in the UK is the band bought by EE, so they will be the only provider able to support the current iPhone hardware on 4G.

I think the 'international' iPhone 5 supports all the LTE frequency bands that are currently in use. This is equally true of pretty every other LTE phone that Samsung etc. are making. If one of the UK carriers decided to use a band that's not in use elsewhere for some reason (and bear in mind there are only two major carriers left and four available 'in use elsewhere' frequency bands for them to pick from) they wouldn't have any handsets from any manufacturer to offer, or they'd have to get somebody to make one specifically for them, which then couldn't be used in any country other than the UK. You can never say the carriers won't make a dumb decision, but I think it would be exceptionally dumb even for them.

Going by what this page, A1429-CDMA will support lots of bands (2100MHz, 1800MHz, 850MHz, 700cMHz, 1900MHz) but that is a non-GSM phone so is pretty much a brick over here in places where there is no 4G coverage. The Eurasian iPhone (A1429-GSM) supports 2100MHz, 1800MHz and 850MHz. The Ofcom auction is for 800MHz and 2600MHz.

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Going by what this page, A1429-CDMA will support lots of bands (2100MHz, 1800MHz, 850MHz, 700cMHz, 1900MHz) but that is a non-GSM phone so is pretty much a brick over here in places where there is no 4G coverage. The Eurasian iPhone (A1429-GSM) supports 2100MHz, 1800MHz and 850MHz. The Ofcom auction is for 800MHz and 2600MHz.

Oh great. The source I read got them the wrong way round :x .

Yeah, from that EE are going to be the only people doing an LTE iPhone 5 in the UK.

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Going by what this page, A1429-CDMA will support lots of bands (2100MHz, 1800MHz, 850MHz, 700cMHz, 1900MHz) but that is a non-GSM phone so is pretty much a brick over here in places where there is no 4G coverage. The Eurasian iPhone (A1429-GSM) supports 2100MHz, 1800MHz and 850MHz. The Ofcom auction is for 800MHz and 2600MHz.

Oh great. The source I read got them the wrong way round :x .

Yeah, from that EE are going to be the only people doing an LTE iPhone 5 in the UK.

The only way I can see anyone else getting in on it without a hardware upgrade is by buying some bandwidth off of EE, and I can't exactly see that one happening.

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The only way I can see anyone else getting in on it without a hardware upgrade is by buying some bandwidth off of EE, and I can't exactly see that one happening.


3 got some as EE had to offer some to another company.


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Went to the Orange shop in Harrogate this morning and paid £25 (as a pre-payment) to put myself in the queue for the black 64GB iPhone 5 :D

I was apparently the first one to pre-order so I can go anytime next Friday to pick it up :D

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Went to the Orange shop in Harrogate this morning and paid £25 (as a pre-payment) to put myself in the queue for the black 64GB iPhone 5 :D
So are you going to use EE?

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What's this talk of 'international' iPhone 5?
Sorry to be asking any dumb questions, but I've been really busy with work the past couple of days and I've not had any time to properly catch up on all the news.

Mark

It is an Americanism.

The rest of the world gets 1 iPhone, which works everywhere. In America, they use such diverse and non-compatible systems, that each carrier needs a tailored iPhone for their network.

The exception being AT&T, which is 90% compatible with the rest of the world, you would be able to use a "normal" iPhone on it, but probably certain functionality wouldn't work properly or the speed wouldn't be as high as a native AT&T iPhone.

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Thank you, Dave.

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Went to the Orange shop in Harrogate this morning and paid £25 (as a pre-payment) to put myself in the queue for the black 64GB iPhone 5 :D
So are you going to use EE?

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Yep, I'll be on EE and using 4G when it's available.

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Went to the Orange shop in Harrogate this morning and paid £25 (as a payment) to put myself in the queue for the black 64GB iPhone 5 :D
I was apparently the first one to order so I can go anytime next Friday to pick it up :D

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Fixed for accuracy.
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