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JohnSheridan
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We were looking at some new cabling we need having done and it brought me to the question of patch panels.
At the moment the network socket cables feed in to the server room to a patch panel and the from the panel into a switch.
Is there any obvious reason why these cables could not just have normal "tags" fitted and plugged straight in to the switch thus making the patch panel redundant?
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| Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:03 pm |
 
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JJW009
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You mean crimping RJ45 plugs onto the end of the solid core and not very flexible CAT5 cabling? That's the "cheap" way to do it. It's very ugly. People do it, but seriously... it's not nice. Especially if there's more than just a dozen leads. Personally, I'd rather spend the extra few pounds doing the job properly. I like my structured cabling to be, err, structured. Obviously, it depends how tight the budget is and how many cables there are. We're very cheap btw - PM me for a quote  _________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
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| Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:35 pm |
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JohnSheridan
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Patch Panel is only £125 from overall quote of just over £3k to get new 39u cabinet, some 48-port switches and transfer all existing servers, UPS etc from existing cabinet into new one.
So might as well just tell them to include it then.
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JJW009
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How much new cabling is involved? How many new switches? Can't really tell if that's a good price without knowing the details. I was serious about the quote, but either way - yep, patch panel is worth it. http://www.cmsplc.com/ - that's my supplier. Call the Brackmills branch if you want to check up on hardware prices. _________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
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big_D
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A decent switch will cost 3K!  I'm with JJW, plus you have more flexibility, if you add in a phone system further down in the rack, you can just run patch cables from the ports on the patch panel to the PBX, if they are directly into the backbone switch, you will probably need to extend the cables anyway, plus you have to label each individual cable. Same with adding additional switches later, or when parts fo the network need to be rerouted to a secondary network, with a patch panel, you can easily do this, if it is just naked cables coming out of the wall, into a switch, you will have problems. Spend the extra cash now and save yourself headaches later.
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Last 48 port I bought was £4.5k, & that was without the redundant psu for it.
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| Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:32 am |
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hifidelity2
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 | | | | big_D wrote: A decent switch will cost 3K! I'm with JJW, plus you have more flexibility, if you add in a phone system further down in the rack, you can just run patch cables from the ports on the patch panel to the PBX, if they are directly into the backbone switch, you will probably need to extend the cables anyway, plus you have to label each individual cable. Same with adding additional switches later, or when parts fo the network need to be rerouted to a secondary network, with a patch panel, you can easily do this, if it is just naked cables coming out of the wall, into a switch, you will have problems. Spend the extra cash now and save yourself headaches later. | | | | |
I agree - Patch panels give you the flexibility later on if you grow. without it it can be a nightmare.
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davrosG5
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Sounds more like a couple of switches and a cabinet the way I read it.
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